<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Martin,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I asked for the gazette article that was never provided. I am not disagreeing with abbreviation. I am asking what source we use as the federal provincial and municipal do no match. I assume you know this reading the sources I provided you.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The correct answer could have been we use federal sources only not provincial or municipal. And that is a perfectly fine answer. I expect the wiki to reflect this. I would also expect it to be clear on items we don’t have federal documents for and how those names should be handled.<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Dec 15, 2022, at 9:38 AM, Martin Chalifoux <<a href="mailto:martin.chalifoux@icloud.com" class="">martin.chalifoux@icloud.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">If this helps. And I think Pierre in his post provided links to databases that provide non-abbreviated names for Alberta.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="x_xh0 hg" style="display: block; margin-bottom: 0.6em; font-family: -apple-system; font-size: 10.92px;"><span role="text" linebreaks="ab¦bre¦vi|ation" class="hw" style="font-size: 18.564001px; line-height: 27.846001px; -webkit-hyphens: auto;">abbreviation </span><span dialect="BrE" prxid="abbreviation_gb_-5e6d" prlexid="optra0012718.001" class="prx" style="display: inline-block; font-size: 13.104px; line-height: 17.0352px; margin-left: 0.4em; margin-right: 0.4em;">| <span d:prn="IPA solitary" dialect="BrE" soundfile="abbreviation#_gb_2" class="ph">əˌbriːvɪˈeɪʃn<d:prn class=""></d:prn></span> | </span></span><span class="sg" style="margin-top: 0.6em; font-family: -apple-system; font-size: 10.92px;"><span id="m_en_gbus0001190.004" class="se1 x_xd0" style="display: block; margin-top: 0.3em; margin-bottom: 2em; margin-left: 1em;"><span role="text" class="x_xdh posg" style="display: block; margin-left: -0.8em; margin-bottom: 0.5em; font-size: 13.104px; line-height: 15.7248px;"><span d:pos="1" class="pos"><span class="gp tg_pos" style="margin-right: 0.3em;">noun </span><d:pos class=""></d:pos></span></span><span id="m_en_gbus0001190.005" class="msDict x_xd1 t_core" style="display: block; margin-top: 0.3em; margin-bottom: 0.7em; margin-left: 0em;"><span d:def="1" role="text" class="df">a shortened form of a word or phrase<d:def class=""></d:def></span><span role="text" class="tg_df gp">: </span><span role="text" class="eg"><span class="ex" style="font-style: italic;">the chemical symbol Ag is an abbreviation of the Latin word for silver, argentum</span><span class="tg_eg gp"> | </span></span><span role="text" class="eg"><span class="ex" style="font-style: italic;">use simple words and no abbreviations</span><span class="tg_eg gp">. </span></span><span role="text" class="gp tg_msDict"></span></span><span id="m_en_gbus0001190.008" class="hasSn t_subsense msDict x_xd1" style="display: block; margin-top: 0.3em; margin-bottom: 0.7em; margin-left: 1em; text-indent: 0em;"><span role="text" class="sn gp tg_msDict" style="font-weight: 600; color: -apple-system-secondary-label; margin-left: -1em; margin-right: 0em;">• </span><span role="text" class="gg" style="font-style: italic; color: -apple-system-secondary-label; font-size: 10.2648px;"><span class="tg_gg gp">[</span><span class="sy">mass noun</span><span class="tg_gg gp">] </span></span><span role="text" class="df">the process of abbreviating something</span><span role="text" class="tg_df gp">: </span><span role="text" class="eg"><span class="ex" style="font-style: italic;">nursing records must be written without abbreviation</span><span class="tg_eg gp">. </span></span></span></span><span class="tg_sg gp"></span></span><span role="text" class="etym x_xo0" style="display: block; margin-top: 1em; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 0em; font-family: -apple-system; font-size: 10.92px;"><span class="x_xoLblBlk ty_label tg_etym gp" style="font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-caps: small-caps; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-size: 9.828px; display: block; padding-bottom: 0.3em; border-bottom-width: thin; border-bottom-style: solid; border-bottom-color: -apple-system-tertiary-label; color: -apple-system-secondary-label; margin-top: 2em; margin-bottom: 0.5em;">ORIGIN </span><span class="x_xo1" style="display: block; margin-top: 0.5em; margin-bottom: 0.5em; margin-left: 1em;"><span class="dg">late Middle English</span>: from <span class="la">Anglo-Norman French </span><span class="ff" style="font-style: italic; font-weight: 600;">abreviation</span>, from <span class="la">ecclesiastical Latin </span><span class="ff" style="font-style: italic; font-weight: 600;">abbreviatio(n-)</span>, from the verb <span class="ff" style="font-style: italic; font-weight: 600;">abbreviare </span>(see <span class="xrg"><span class="xr"><a href="x-dictionary:r:m_en_gbus0001170:com.apple.dictionary.ODE:abbreviate" title="abbreviate" style="color: -webkit-link; text-decoration: none;" class="">abbreviate</a></span></span>)<span class="tg_etym gp">.</span></span><span class="x_xo1" style="display: block; margin-top: 0.5em; margin-bottom: 0.5em; margin-left: 1em;"><span class="tg_etym gp"><br class=""></span></span><span class="x_xo1" style="display: block; margin-top: 0.5em; margin-bottom: 0.5em; margin-left: 1em;"><span class="tg_etym gp"><br class=""></span></span><span class="x_xo1" style="display: block; margin-top: 0.5em; margin-bottom: 0.5em; margin-left: 1em;"><span class="tg_etym gp"><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" class="">From Pierre B’eland Post:</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" class="">____________________</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" class="">Permettez-moi de revenir sur le sujet des répertoires de données officielles au Canada. J'ai pris le temps de télécharger les données pour l'Alberta et j'y constate que les noms sont écrits sans abbréviation ie. South-East, South-West et non SE, SW.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" class="">(voir liens NRN plus bas).</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" class="">Les données officielles sont collectées par les provinces et territoires. Le gouvernement fédéral y ajoute de données fédérales telles que Pacs nationaux. <br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" class=""><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class="">La Commission de toponymie du Canada - Geographical Names Board of Canada gère ces données. Cette Commission comprend des représentants des provinces et territoires et ministères fédéraux.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class=""><a href="https://www.rncan.gc.ca/sciences-de-la-terre/geographie/commission-de-toponymie-du-canada/11085" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="">https://www.rncan.gc.ca/sciences-de-la-terre/geographie/commission-de-toponymie-du-canada/11085</a><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class=""><a href="https://www.nrcan.gc.ca/earth-sciences/geography/geographical-names-board-canada/11084" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="">https://www.nrcan.gc.ca/earth-sciences/geography/geographical-names-board-canada/11084</a><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class=""> </div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class="">De là des répertoires sont disponibles notamment sur le site des données ouvertes du Canada.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class="">Voici deux grands répertoires de données vectorielles qui nous intéressent</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class=""><br class=""></div></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" class="">1. Noms de lieux - Toponymes du Canada - Geographical names in Canada</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" class="">FR <a href="https://www.rncan.gc.ca/cartes-outils-et-publications/cartes/toponymes-canada/10804" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="">https://www.rncan.gc.ca/cartes-outils-et-publications/cartes/toponymes-canada/10804</a></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" class="">EN <a href="https://www.nrcan.gc.ca/maps-tools-and-publications/maps/geographical-names-canada/10786" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="">https://www.nrcan.gc.ca/maps-tools-and-publications/maps/geographical-names-canada/10786</a></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" class="">2. Réseau routier national - National Road Network (NRN)</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" class="">FR <a href="https://www.statcan.gc.ca/fr/consultation/2019/rrn" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="">https://www.statcan.gc.ca/fr/consultation/2019/rrn</a></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" class="">EN <a href="https://www.statcan.gc.ca/en/consultation/2019/nrn" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="">https://www.statcan.gc.ca/en/consultation/2019/nrn</a></div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></span></span></span></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>