<!DOCTYPE html><html><head><title></title><style type="text/css">p.MsoNormal,p.MsoNoSpacing{margin:0}</style></head><body><div><div>Not really. It's a description. hgv=designated is the same description, except machine readable.<br></div><div><br></div><div>The comment about "even for non-US citizens !!!" suggests a pretty deep misunderstanding of how OSM names, tagging, and rendering works. Or I'm not even sure if it's not a troll. Maybe point out that even though OSM is a globally accessible project, we don't see truck routes in Germany named "卡车"?<br></div><div><br></div><div>I think all these descriptions in name tags ("LKW", "Truck", "Commercial Truck Route") should be reverted on sight, and if they reintroduce them, report this to the Data Working Group who I believe have enforcement powers for this. (Frederik, are you still on DWG yourself?)<br></div><div><br></div><div>--Jarek<br></div><div><br></div><div>On Tue, Jul 4, 2023, at 23:13, Michael Stark wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote type="cite" id="qt" style=""><div dir="ltr"><div>Is it appropriate to label every lane as "Commercial Truck Route"?<br></div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/133018698">https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/133018698</a><br></div></div><div><br></div><div class="qt-gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="qt-gmail_attr">On Tue, Jul 4, 2023 at 9:08 AM Michael Stark <<a href="mailto:michael60634@gmail.com">michael60634@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="qt-gmail_quote" style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-left-style:solid;border-left-width:1px;padding-left:1ex;"><div dir="auto"><div>Further reply on the changesets comments:<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div>"OSM is a globally accessible project. So even for non-US citizens !!! They must also be able to read the map !!! HGV and LKW are equivalent abbreviations. Only the insulted arrogant one returns correctly made repairs. Only a fool prefers a poorly drawn map with a theoretically good description."<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/134216339" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/134216339</a><br></div></div></div><div><br></div><div class="qt-gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="qt-gmail_attr">On Tue, Jul 4, 2023, 2:43 AM Frederik Ramm <<a href="mailto:frederik@remote.org" target="_blank">frederik@remote.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="qt-gmail_quote" style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-left-style:solid;border-left-width:1px;padding-left:1ex;"><div>Well even if the term "lkw" were ubiquitous it would still not be a <br></div><div> suitable value for the "name" tag of a truck lane...<br></div><div> <br></div><div> On 7/4/23 06:44, Jherome Miguel wrote:<br></div><div> > They just replied. Quoting.<br></div><div> > <br></div><div> > "In Europe, even outside Germany, the abbreviation LKW (freight) or PKW <br></div><div> > (passenger) is used. These, on the other hand, do not use the <br></div><div> > abbreviation HVG [sic]. I think the combination LKW / TRUCK is used to <br></div><div> > describe it, which is understandable to both English and Germans. Some <br></div><div> > Americans and Canadians don't know the abbreviation HGV either. Stop <br></div><div> > removing the LKW/TRUCK description. Thank you."<br></div><div> > <br></div><div> > Obviously false. Yes, we don't use HGV, but truck, but the problem is <br></div><div> > they also slap LKW under a false assumption. Gahhhhhhhh! They might not <br></div><div> > have ever stepped in either Canada or America.<br></div><div> > <br></div><div> > On Sun, Jun 25, 2023 at 10:53 PM Paul Norman <<a href="mailto:osm@paulnorman.ca" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">osm@paulnorman.ca</a> <br></div><div> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:osm@paulnorman.ca" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">osm@paulnorman.ca</a>>> wrote:<br></div><div> > <br></div><div> > On 2023-06-23 3:17 p.m., Jherome Miguel wrote:<br></div><div> > > Some user from Czech Republic has been adding this label "TRUCK/LKW"<br></div><div> > > to truck lanes and parking at border crossings with the US, and this<br></div><div> > > has been annoying me. Unless you speak German, you have no idea<br></div><div> > what a<br></div><div> > > LKW is. Just asked them to stop these. Have anyone did away with<br></div><div> > > these? Already did these with Emerson/Pembina and Stanstead/Derby<br></div><div> > Line.<br></div><div> > <br></div><div> > <br></div><div> > That name is generally going to be wrong, aside from the LKW part.<br></div><div> > These<br></div><div> > are not streets with a name of TRUCK, and they generally have the same<br></div><div> > name as a larger road, or no name at all.<br></div><div> > <br></div><div> > <br></div><div> > _______________________________________________<br></div><div> > Talk-ca mailing list<br></div><div> > <a href="mailto:Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org</a><br></div><div> > <a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca</a><br></div><div> <br></div><div> -- <br></div><div> Frederik Ramm ## eMail <a href="mailto:frederik@remote.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">frederik@remote.org</a> ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33"<br></div><div> <br></div><div> _______________________________________________<br></div><div> Talk-ca mailing list<br></div><div> <a href="mailto:Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org</a><br></div><div> <a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca</a><br></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div><div>_______________________________________________<br></div><div>Talk-ca mailing list<br></div><div><a href="mailto:Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org">Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org</a><br></div><div><a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca</a><br></div><div><br></div></blockquote><div><br></div></body></html>