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<p><b>1. Who are you and what do you do? What got you into
OpenStreetMap?</b></p>
<p style="font-weight:normal">We are the <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Catalan">OpenStreetMap's
catalan speakers community</a>. We found a common goal that mixed
geospatial information and the promotion of the catalan language. OSM
is the answer to our goal. It provides a open data base which allows
us to add local information and in catalan, freely.
</p>
<p style="font-weight:normal">The effort of Google to translate into
spanish all the catalan streets and ways that are officially and in
the reality written in catalan, resulted in a huge mess and a sum of
protests that continues nowadays when somebody tries to find a street
or a square. This fact helped to promote and be seen as an open
alternative, OpenStreetMap.</p>
<p><b>2. What would you say is the current state of OSM and the OSM
community in Catalunya? </b></p>
<p style="font-weight:normal">Nowadays, the ways have a good quality
thanks to a hard work made in the past. There's a good work involving
the paths and mountain hiking routes. The map is currently growing
and with a high level of detail in some areas. But there's a lot of
work to do in the urban areas.</p>
<p><span style="font-weight:normal">We had the pleasure to be part
of the <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_Of_The_Map_2010">SotM
2010</a> which took place in Girona. Last year, we organized our
first meeting as a OSM community in Sarrià de Ter. Since this first
meeting, we started to build and shape our community. We organized
several workshops and conferences like “OpenStreetMap for the
Forest Defence Association”. A workshop which focused on tagging
forest elements, like tracks and fire hydrants and the use of mobile
applications.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight:normal">We have a long path to increase
our mappers and improve communication between us.</span></p>
<p><b>3. What are the unique challenges and pleasures of
OpenStreetMap in Catalunya? What aspects of the projects should
the rest of the world be aware of? </b></p>
<p style="font-weight:normal">We focused our work in some specific
areas like Montuïc's cemetery, the Barcelona's Zoo or Port Aventura.
We are working with Wikipedia community to link OSM data with
Wikidata and viceversa. We finished in 2 weeks of work without rest
the addition of the wikidata tag to all the cities, towns, provinces
and regions of Catalunya.
</p>
<p><span style="font-weight:normal">We also started to recover the
catalan names from Perpinyà in south France. </span><span style="font-weight:normal">There's
also work to do to tag occitanian names</span><span style="font-style:normal"><span style="font-weight:normal">
in </span></span><em><span style="font-style:normal">Val d'Aran. </span></em><em><span style="font-style:normal">We
are glad to count with apps like OsmAnd that allows the use of the
catalan language but we miss yet a <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speech_synthesis">TTS</a>
in catalan.</span></em></p>
<p style="font-weight:normal">Some mappers of our OSM community
started to focus on 3D tagging and urban elements as bus routes, fire
hydrants or opening hours. The knowledge and the focus on the local
area lets us to improve the data and present OSM as a reliable source
data.</p>
<p style="font-weight:normal">One of our goals is to involve
governments and teach them the benefits of open data. We are
currently importing information from the Cadastro in some areas like
Girona, a work started and coordinated by the spanish OSM community.
A task that would be easier with the implication of the spanish
government. We also hope that the information from the ICGC
(Catalonia's Cartographic and Geological Institute) will be added
into OSM in the future thanks to a new transparency law.</p>
<p><b>4. What steps could the global OpenStreetMap community take to
help support OSM in the Catal</b><b>uny</b><b>a specifically?</b> </p>
<p>OSM helped us by letting create a non-state community. Maybe, we
expect to increase the strength of the communication and feedback
with the rest of the OSM communities.</p>
<p><b>5. Last year OSM celebrated its 10th birthday, where do you
think the project will be in 10 years time, both globally
and Catal</b><b>unya</b><b>?</b></p>
<p style="font-weight:normal">In 10 years, the detail of
information will be awesome. Thanks to a increase of mappers and
interest in open data. It will experiment a process similar as
Wikipedia. It will become, hopefully, in an essential resource that
with better information will compete with comercial alternatives.
</p>
<p style="font-weight:normal">We hope more governments and
administrations will discontinue the use of comercial maps and
payment data and support open data. Some of our city councils start
to join OSM by using their maps or by open their data bases to OSM
mappers. A fact that will continue growing because open data is also
a way to optimize and save money and resources and to promotes the
creation of companies linked to the use of open data.</p>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">El dia 9 de maig de 2015, 10:58, yo paseopor <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:yopaseopor@gmail.com" target="_blank">yopaseopor@gmail.com</a>></span> ha escrit:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Jo hi afegiria que donat que som comunitat oberta, amb coneixement del territori fa que els nostres materials siguin més ajustats i actualitzats que qualsevol altra solució comercial i/o governamental, la qual cosa pot portar a governs i administracions a col·laborar, quan no substituir o integrar Openstreetmap, ja sigui tema ADFs i bombers, ajuntaments com el de Sarrià de Ter que ens va escoltar, o en un futur altres ajuntaments o fins i tot la Generalitat de Catalunya. Al cap i a la fi és optimitzar recursos i estalviar-se diners, i la nostra comunitat hi tindrà un paper fonamental.<div><br></div><div>Salut i resposta</div><div>yopaseopor</div></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2015-05-08 12:47 GMT+02:00 josep constantí <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jconstanti@yahoo.es" target="_blank">jconstanti@yahoo.es</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td valign="top">Jo crec que en 10 anys OSM tindrà una qualitat de primer ordre, amb un efecte 'bola de neu' més qualitat actual accelera la qualitat futura, superant les opcions comercials com ara ho està fent la Viquipèdia al seu àmbit. <br><br>En ser obert es pot incloure nova informació no contemplada en altres opcions: amplada via, alçada finca... <div><br></div><div>Salutacions </div><div><br></div><div>Josep<br><p><a href="https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android" target="_blank">Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android</a></p> <hr><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody> <tr> <td valign="top"> <div style="font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;color:#7e7d80"><b>From</b>:"Carlos Sánchez" <<a href="mailto:erielkhan@gmail.com" target="_blank">erielkhan@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Date</b>:dv., maig 8, 2015 at 11:37<br><b>Subject</b>:Re: [Talk-cat] Entrevista per a OpenCageData<br><br></div><div><div> <div dir="ltr">Si ningú diu res més aquest cap de setmana redacto la resposta a l'entrevista, integrant el que heu anat comentant.<br clear="none"></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="none"><div class="gmail_quote">El dia 6 de maig de 2015, 15:37, Konfrare Albert <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect">lakonfrariadelavila@gmail.com</a>></span> ha escrit:<br clear="none"><div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">+1<br clear="none">
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Me n'havia oblidat<br clear="none">
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El dia 6/5/15, Wladimir Szczerban <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect">bolosig@gmail.com</a>> ha escrit:<br clear="none">
<span>> Hola a todos,<br clear="none">
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> Yo creo que uno de los retos que tiena la comunidad de OSM en catalunya es<br clear="none">
> lograr que el ICGC permita usar sus datos como fuente de datos para OSM.<br clear="none">
> Aunque parece que con la ley de transparencia esto será posible, creo que<br clear="none">
> se debería hacer entender al ICGC de los beneficios (tanto para el ICGC<br clear="none">
> como para OSM) de colaborar.<br clear="none">
><br clear="none">
> Saludos,<br clear="none">
> Bolo<br clear="none">
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> 2015-05-05 22:47 GMT+02:00 Konfrare Albert <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect">lakonfrariadelavila@gmail.com</a>>:<br clear="none">
><br clear="none">
>> Bones,<br clear="none">
>><br clear="none">
>> Alguns aspectes -una mica desordenats- a tenir en compte (des del meu<br clear="none">
>> punt<br clear="none">
>> de vista):<br clear="none">
>><br clear="none">
</span>>> - Evidentment el tema de la llengua penso que per nosaltres és un tema<br clear="none">
<span>>> cabdal. De fet, quan Google va «castellanitzar» els noms dels carrers,<br clear="none">
>> etc<br clear="none">
>> va ser una gran oportunitat per donar a conèixer OSM. També és<br clear="none">
>> important<br clear="none">
>> que aplicacions com l'OsmAnd permetin utilitzar el mapa amb<br clear="none">
>> l'etiquetatge<br clear="none">
>> en català.<br clear="none">
>><br clear="none">
>><br clear="none">
</span>>> - Sobre l'estat d'OSM a Catalunya jo destacaria la gran feinada que<br clear="none">
<span>>> s'ha fet en vies terrestres i també la gran quantitat de senders de<br clear="none">
>> muntanya que hi ha traçats. Pel que fa a les poblacions encara hi ha<br clear="none">
>> molta<br clear="none">
>> a feina a fer, encara que les principals tenen un bon nivell de<br clear="none">
>> detall.<br clear="none">
>> També destacaria la feina recent que es va fer en col·laboració amb<br clear="none">
>> els<br clear="none">
>> viquipedistes per entrar les etiquetes Wikidata, i també em faria ressò<br clear="none">
>> de<br clear="none">
>> les actuacions que s'han fet en indrets com el cementiri de Montjuïc,<br clear="none">
>> el<br clear="none">
>> Zoològic o Port Aventura. Podria ser interessant comentar el taller amb<br clear="none">
>> els<br clear="none">
>> ADF. També podríem comentar la importació de Girona (SoTM) i que s'ha<br clear="none">
>> començat a importar el cadastre en algunes poblacions (projecte heredat<br clear="none">
>> de<br clear="none">
>> la comunitat OSM Espanya). També es podria comentar el projecte de<br clear="none">
>> recuperar la nomenclatura dels carrers de Perpinyà en català (d'això<br clear="none">
>> segurament el Felip ens podrà donar més detalls).<br clear="none">
>><br clear="none">
>><br clear="none">
</span>>> - Sobre els 10 anys d'OSM, jo penso que a Catalunya l'evolució de les<br clear="none">
<span>>> dades a OSM han crescut exponencialment. La meva opinió és que<br clear="none">
>> continuaran<br clear="none">
>> creixent i que en els propers 10 anys el nivell de detall serà<br clear="none">
>> impressionant.<br clear="none">
>><br clear="none">
>><br clear="none">
</span>>> - En què ens pot ajudar la comunitat d'OSM? Jo penso que ja ens ha<br clear="none">
<span>>> ajudat en dos aspectes fonamentals:<br clear="none">
</span>>> - Permetre traduir, utilitzar etiquetes en català, etc... és a dir,<br clear="none">
>> ser 100% obert<br clear="none">
>> - Permetre'ns crear una «comunitat» malgrat no disposar d'Estat<br clear="none">
<span>>> propi. Sembla una obvietat, però em consta que en altres comunitats<br clear="none">
>> això no<br clear="none">
>> és tan obvi i que no els és tan fàcil.<br clear="none">
</span>>> - Un problema que no és culpa d'OSM és per exemple, no disposar de<br clear="none">
<span>>> TTS gratuïts en català. De cara a publicitar l'OsmAnd -per exemple-<br clear="none">
>> com a<br clear="none">
>> GPS ens perjudica.<br clear="none">
>><br clear="none">
>> Bé, ara per ara no se m'acut res més.<br clear="none">
>><br clear="none">
>> Ja direu i ja posaré cullerada si cal.<br clear="none">
>><br clear="none">
>> Salut! ;)<br clear="none">
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>> 2015-05-02 10:46 GMT+02:00 Carlos Sánchez <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect">erielkhan@gmail.com</a>>:<br clear="none">
>><br clear="none">
>>> M'han fet arribar unes preguntes a OSMcatala per al blog d'OpenCageData.<br clear="none">
>>> Us passo les preguntes per tal de poder elaborar una resposta conjunta,<br clear="none">
>>> tot posant en comú idees o temes a parlar.<br clear="none">
>>><br clear="none">
>>> Us paso a continuació les preguntes. La setmana entrant miraré d'enviar<br clear="none">
>>> resposta conjunta amb la recopilació de temes i idees parlats per aquí.<br clear="none">
>>><br clear="none">
</span>>>> *1. Who are you and what do you do? What got you into OpenStreetMap?*<br clear="none">
>>><br clear="none">
>>> *2. What would you say is the current state of OSM and the OSM community<br clear="none">
>>> in Catalonia? *<br clear="none">
>>><br clear="none">
>>> *3. What are the unique challenges and pleasures of OpenStreetMap in<br clear="none">
<span>>>> Catalonia? What aspects of the projects should the rest of the world be<br clear="none">
</span>>>> aware of? *<br clear="none">
>>><br clear="none">
>>> *4. What steps could the global OpenStreetMap community take to help<br clear="none">
>>> support OSM in the Catalonia specifically?*<br clear="none">
>>><br clear="none">
>>> *5**. Last year OSM celebrated its 10th birthday, where do you think the<br clear="none">
>>> project will be in 10 years time, both globally and Catalonia?*<br clear="none">
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<span>>> La Konfraria de la Vila del Pingüí<br clear="none">
>> de La Palma de Cervelló<br clear="none">
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