<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hola Julio!<div><br><div><div>On Mar 5, 2010, at 4:14 AM, Julio Costa Zambelli wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">Hello Dane,<br><br>I wanted to ask you if you have the technical skills to implement a Tile server (Mapnik) with a fast update cycle.</blockquote><div><br></div>Yes.</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"> The thing is that the people managing the Ushahidi Chile website are willing to go back to OpenStreetMap as their default map layer, but ask me for a more "appealing" render. </blockquote><div><br></div><div>Okay, would be really good to know more about what that means.</div><div><br></div><div>For haiti then went from tile.osm.org to --> haiti.openstreetmap.nl --> mapbox tiles as overlay on tile.osm.org</div><div><br></div><div>What worked, didn't, might, could, etc... is important. Perhaps I should get in contact with ushihidi lead directly?</div><div><br></div><div>I also know the mapbox folks. I don't think they do not have fast update cycle, but do have great styles.</div><br><blockquote type="cite">I thought of CloudMades Custom Style renders, but the problem is that I want to preserve the OSMF render ability to update the tiles in a very fast cycle (lets say ten minutes) using the diffs. We are working in the earthquake affected area and I want to show that as soon as possible in the render, not 10 days later. <br></blockquote><div><br></div>Sure, How much custom tags and data is being used so far?</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"> <br>I am notoriously unskilled in this kind of technologies, so I can provide the requirements, and maybe intervene on simple tasks like the configuration of the XML file that controls the style of the render, but in everything else I totally depend on more experienced people. <br> <br></blockquote><div><br></div>Sure, you bet!</div><div><br></div><div>- Dane</div><div><br></div><div><br><blockquote type="cite">Thanks for your help.<br><br>Best Regards,<br><br>Julio Costa<br>OpenStreetMap Chile<br><a href="http://www.openstreetmap.cl/">http://www.openstreetmap.cl/</a> <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br> From: <b class="gmail_sendername">nicolas chavent</b> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nicolas.chavent@gmail.com">nicolas.chavent@gmail.com</a>></span><br>Date: Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 5:58 PM<br>Subject: WMS featuring OSM images background tiles in support of Chile Quake Response based on Dane's Haiti WMS<br> To: Julio Costa Zambelli <<a href="mailto:juliocostaz@gmail.com">juliocostaz@gmail.com</a>>, Dane Springmeyer <<a href="mailto:blake@hailmail.net">blake@hailmail.net</a>><br>Cc: Andrew Turner <<a href="mailto:ajturner@gmail.com">ajturner@gmail.com</a>>, Kate Chapman <<a href="mailto:k8chapman@gmail.com">k8chapman@gmail.com</a>>, Mikel Maron <<a href="mailto:mikel_maron@yahoo.com">mikel_maron@yahoo.com</a>><br> <br><br>Dane, Julio and all-<br><br>If introductions are not already done, Dane (who put up a now stable WMS featuring OSM images background tiles ) meet Julio (who is doing a hell of coordination work within the OSM Chile Community) <br> <br>I am just introducing you on the deployment of such a service to support relief work in Chile we had been briefly alluded to Dane and I while Dane was working on enhancing the quality of its WMS to make it robust enough to meet UNOCHA map production needs in Haiti. I heard from Severin (Haiti UNOCHA) that you are almost there Dane (nice and neat). If replicable by you or somebody else in OSM, this is a service that must come together with the already OSM shp and garmin extracts from cloudmade and geofabrik.<br> <br>I leave this in your hands<br>Best to both of you and all<br>N<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Dane Springmeyer</b> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:blake@hailmail.net" target="_blank">blake@hailmail.net</a>></span><br> Date: Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 2:23 AM<br>Subject: Re: Haiti Quake support: field-reported ill-functioning ESRI WMS featuring OSM images background tiles<br>To: OCHA HAITI MAPPING <<a href="mailto:ocha.haiti.mapping@gmail.com" target="_blank">ocha.haiti.mapping@gmail.com</a>><br> Cc: Mikel Maron <<a href="mailto:mikel_maron@yahoo.com" target="_blank">mikel_maron@yahoo.com</a>>, Kate Chapman <<a href="mailto:k8chapman@gmail.com" target="_blank">k8chapman@gmail.com</a>>, Andrew Turner <<a href="mailto:ajturner@gmail.com" target="_blank">ajturner@gmail.com</a>>, nicolas chavent <<a href="mailto:nicolas.chavent@gmail.com" target="_blank">nicolas.chavent@gmail.com</a>><br> <br><br><div style="word-wrap: break-word;">Hello Severin,<div><br></div><div>I'll comment below inline...</div><div><br><div><div><div>On Mar 2, 2010, at 4:33 PM, OCHA HAITI MAPPING wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"> <div class="gmail_quote">Hi Dane,<br><br>I tested these two WMS in ArcGIS as "GIS servers"in ArcCatalog, then put into ArcMap as background </div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>Okay. Which version of ArcGIS are you running?</div> <div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div class="gmail_quote">:<br>- <a href="http://data1.vizure.net/server/services/osm.xml" target="_blank">http://data1.vizure.net/server/services/osm.xml</a>?, wich views the details shown currently on <a href="http://openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">openstreetmap.org</a>, but almost impossible to prnt or export in a numeric map on ArcGIS. </div> </blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>Okay, I do not know much about this service, other than it is low quality jpeg.</div><div><br></div><div>What do you mean by "numeric map"?</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"> <div class="gmail_quote">I tried to make a map on Leogane area from 300 to 96 dpi and each time, as print edition as much as a PDF, it failed, with only a little part on the upper left corner of the image <br></div></blockquote> <div><br></div></div><div>Okay.</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div class="gmail_quote"> - <span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><a href="http://tile2.dbsgeo.com/?request=GetCapabilities&service=WMS&version=1.1.1" target="_blank">http://tile2.dbsgeo.com/?request=GetCapabilities&service=WMS&version=1.1.1</a></span> which apparently shows only boundaries<br> </div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div></div>This is the service I run. It should show more than boundaries, but yes the data show does change by zoom level.</div><div><br></div><div>I think what is likely happening in ArcMap is that you need to EXPAND the layer checkbox, and make sure that ALL the sub-layers of the WMS are turned on.</div> <div><br></div><div>So, here is an example request:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://tile2.dbsgeo.com/?layers=__all__&bbox=18.497972,-72.479639,18.572645,-72.247381&height=400&width=600&service=WMS&request=GetMap&version=1.3.0&srs=EPSG:4326&format=image/png&styles=&crs=EPSG:4326" target="_blank">http://tile2.dbsgeo.com/?layers=__all__&bbox=18.497972,-72.479639,18.572645,-72.247381&height=400&width=600&service=WMS&request=GetMap&version=1.3.0&srs=EPSG:4326&format=image/png&styles=&crs=EPSG:4326</a></div> <div><br></div><div>Does this look different from what you are getting?</div><div><br></div><font color="#888888"><div>Dane</div><div><br></div><br></font></div></div></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Nicolas Chavent<br> Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team<br><a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti</a><br>Mobile (FRA): +33 6 75 14 29 70<br>Email: <a href="mailto:nicolas.chavent@gmail.com" target="_blank">nicolas.chavent@gmail.com</a><br> Skype: c_nicolas<br><br> </div><br></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>