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Hi,<br>
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Exactly Eduardo.<br>
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An example picture I had in mind can be seen at the bottom of
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.instedd.org/">http://www.instedd.org/</a> (click on it to enlarge).<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div>Yes that is the main geochat UI - <a href="http://geochat.instedd.org">http://geochat.instedd.org</a> when you sign in and are looking at group messages. We would have to look at how the javascript to display the bubbles and images etc would need to change. Anyone willing to help?</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
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For a potential use by OSM-Chile, I think it would be better to have
OpenStreetMap as the basis for the map view. So that the map updates
can be seen quickly.<br></div></blockquote>Agree - <br><blockquote type="cite"><div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
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Mikel's blog is very interesting regarding how GeoChat can also help
feeding updates to OSM, by sending by SMS grid coordinates seen on a
walking paper.<br>
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I am wondering whether, in some areas, cell phone companies can supply
e.g. antenna information, which could help localizing SMS
approximately, when no more precise mean is available (or better
localization info if possible, of course).<br></div></blockquote><div>The technology is there; but the regulatory issues are tricky. E.g. in haiti to correlate a phone number with a tower it takes ~ 3 days to clear the paperwork from the Haitian National Police. The telcos have no opt-in system to let citizens jump onto this yet. </div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
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Could preparing an example set-up for, e.g., the subscribers to
OSM-talk-Chile (talk-cl) (at most about 40 addresses at the moment) be
a good way to get started experimenting with GeoChat in Chile ? Some
live in hardly impacted areas (Concepción, Pichilemu, ...), some in
Santiago, some in Punta Arenas...<br></div></blockquote><div>Please go ahead! Join the geochat users lists to ask for some help and get going. We dont have any chile-specific shortcodes yet but MVNO numbers should be working.</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
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I haven't yet started experimenting with GeoChat from here (I live in
Toulouse, France). I could help doing some translation to Spanish.</div></blockquote><br><blockquote type="cite"><div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
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Maybe we could follow on this topic on
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/geochatusers">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/geochatusers</a> , which those interested
could join ? Or by direct mail ? Nicolás, everyone, what do you think ?<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Lets continue on that group! Looking fwd to helping you out.</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
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Best regards,<br>
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Jean-Guilhem<br>
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Eduardo Jezierski a écrit :
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<pre wrap="">Yup, Camp Roberts was a cool joint effort (brought lots of feedback, integration w geocommons for geocoding in some of our components, and MGRS support)
I think Jean means using OSM as the basis for the map view that makes the main GeoChat UI; Jean maybe you can clarify?
~ ej
On Fri,Mar 5, 2010, at 16:06 , Kate Chapman wrote:
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<pre wrap="">There has been integration before between InSTEDD and OSM.
Mikel wrote a blog post about it: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://brainoff.com/weblog/2009/08/10/1435">http://brainoff.com/weblog/2009/08/10/1435</a>
-Kate
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jgc@arkemie.com"><jgc@arkemie.com></a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Dear Julio,
I just found out about InSTEDD (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.instedd.org/">http://www.instedd.org/</a>) and think it might
interest you to have a look at what they offer.
As a recent example of their activity, they technically supported the
emergency short code SMS system in Haiti.
In particular, InSTEDD GeoChat was apparently designed as a communication
means for "major humanitarian crises". (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.instedd.org/geochat">http://www.instedd.org/geochat</a>)
A quote from <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.instedd.org/technology_overview">http://www.instedd.org/technology_overview</a> follows:
(I do hope nobody takes offence that there might be some common points
between crisis situations anywhere in the world and common situation in the
developing world)
"InSTEDD GeoChat is a unified mobile communications service designed
specifically to enable self-organizing group communications in the
developing world. The service lets mobile phone users broadcast
location-based alerts, report on their situation, and coordinate around
events as they unfold, linking field, headquarters, and the local community
in a real-time, interactive conversation visualized on the surface of a
map. Once you create a GeoChat group, you may use it as the text equivalent
of a push-to-talk radio: send the group a message on the Web, by email, or
by SMS, and the rest of the group receives it. GeoChat allows information
to flow over multiple messaging channels, including dedicated SMS servers, a
cell phone plugged into a laptop, a satellite phone, and even Twitter. You
may learn more about InSTEDD GeoChat here. Please join the online community
around GeoChat here. GeoChat is hosted "in the cloud" via Amazon, so there
is no server to deploy. GeoChat has global SMS coverage through Clickatel,
has a US domestic SMS shortcode, and may easily be integrated with gateways
of local carriers. Users have referred to GeoChat as “Email for the Bottom
Billion”."
GeoChat is in Beta.
I do not know whether it is easy to have OSM as the map used in GeoChat
(example pictures display Google maps), but since it is free and open source
(GPLv3), it would certainly be possible to adapt it if necessary.
I am just learning about InSTEDD, so there may also be other potentially
interesting things on their website (like <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.trackernews.net/">http://www.trackernews.net/</a>, for
instance).
Hoping this helps,
Jean-Guilhem
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