Juan Cristobal,<div><br></div><div>Si quieren envíen ustedes también tweets a fmorande preguntando por donde _en especifico_ encontrar o solicitar los datos. No tengo claro cual es la forma más eficiente de hacer disponible un dataset de esta escala en vivo. ¿Que opinan la gente con el "expertice" técnico?<div>
<br></div><div>Yo se que Oliver O'Brien de <a href="http://oobrien.com/vis/bikes/">http://oobrien.com/vis/bikes/</a> estaba extrayendo los datos para el mapa del Vélib de París directamente de la página del proveedor (<a href="http://www.velib.paris.fr/">http://www.velib.paris.fr/</a>) (supongo que hace lo mismo con las otras ciudades que maneja en ciclos de entre 2 y 20 minutos), pues estos lo bloquearon a mediados de Octubre al más puro estilo del SIMT. No se exactamente como extraía los datos, pero la escala y tiempos, solo de París, me parecen extraordinarios: 17.000 bicicletas, 1.202 estaciones, refrescos cada 120 segundos (cuando funcionaba). </div>
<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div><br></div><div>Saludos,</div><div><br></div><div>Julio Costa<br><br></div><div><br>
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Julio:<div><br></div><div>¿Hay algo en lo que te podamos ayudar? <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/11/11 Julio Costa Zambelli <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:julio.costa@openstreetmap.cl" target="_blank">julio.costa@openstreetmap.cl</a>></span><div>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Juan Cristobal,<div><br></div><div>Leí los últimos dos tweets a medio dormir y quede emocionado por el cambio de actitud (desde la verdad a medias en que decía que el MTT no bloqueaba a @cuantofaltapp). </div>
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<div>En todo caso algunos meses atrás pedí los datos a Transantiago y dijeron que ellos no los tenían y que pertenecían a cada empresa. Espero que el ministro se ponga las pilas y me deje como un bocon liberando todos los datos. </div>
<div><br></div><div>Saludos,</div><div><br></div><div>Julio Costa <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/11/10 Juan Cristóbal Olivares <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cristobal@cxnet.cl" target="_blank">cristobal@cxnet.cl</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div></div><div>Estimados:<div><br></div><div>Hoy el ministro de transportes y telecom publicó algunos Tweets interesantes:</div>
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"@<a href="http://twitter.com/danielivdp" rel="nofollow" style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;border-top-width:0px;border-right-width:0px;border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;border-style:initial;border-color:initial;color:rgb(0, 132, 180);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">danielivdp</a>: @<a href="http://twitter.com/fmorande" rel="nofollow" style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;border-top-width:0px;border-right-width:0px;border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;border-style:initial;border-color:initial;color:rgb(0, 132, 180);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">fmorande</a> es cierto que MTT bloquea las app de smartphone para ver tpo de espera transantiago?"/ NO definitivamente</div>
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Sobre @<a href="http://twitter.com/cuantofaltapp" rel="nofollow" style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;border-top-width:0px;border-right-width:0px;border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;border-style:initial;border-color:initial;color:rgb(0, 132, 180);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">cuantofaltapp</a>, MTT no bloquea esta aplicación. Más aún, instruí liberar datos para desarrollo d aplicaciones. Pedirlos a Transantiago</div>
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No podemos obligar a empresa a dar acceso a su servidor privado pero datos son públicos. @<a href="http://twitter.com/cuantofaltapp" rel="nofollow" style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;border-top-width:0px;border-right-width:0px;border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;border-style:initial;border-color:initial;color:rgb(0, 132, 180);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">cuantofaltapp</a> u otros innovadores pueden pedirlos</div>
</div></span></span></div><div><br></div><div>¿Alguien tiene más info concreta? ¿Alguna petición oficial a Transantiago por datos para OSM? Eso... :)</div><div><br>-- <br><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Atte,<br>
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