<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><div>Le 4 avr. 10 à 20:15, Vincent Pottier a écrit :</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; ">Sur le bâtiment.<br>On décrit l'objet sur l'objet.<br>Ce qui relève du site, sur le site, ce qui relève du bâtiment sur le<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>bâtiment.<br>Le tag 'rôle' dans la relation pourra décrire le rôle du bâtiment dans<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>l'ensemble (la relation du membre à l'ensemble)<br><br>Un petit exemple.<br>Sur un site industriel, il peut y avoir différents types de bâtiments :<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>bureaux, hangars, silos, ateliers. On taggue cela sur le bâtiment.<br>Ces bâtiments on un rôle dans l'ensemble qu'on indique dans la relation<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>: administration, production, stockage...<br></span></blockquote><div><br></div>OK super.</div><div>Merci des précisions.</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><blockquote type="cite">Par ailleurs je vois que à priori on peu utiliser building=factory ou<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">build:type=factory, y'a t'il une préférence ?<br></blockquote>Éviter le 'type', mot passe-partout donc sans valeur sémantique (sauf<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>dans la relation : type=site).<br>le building=factory va bien<br><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Et pour terminer quel est le type (building:type ou tag) pour désigner<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">un chai ?<br></blockquote>Je doute que ça existe. Je ne suis pas sur qu'il faille le créer. C'est,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>je pense, trop attaché à une filière de vinification.<br>À priori, il faut trouver un tag qui décrive le bâti, son architecture<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>(hangar, usine... ) plutôt que sa fonction et ses entrailles...<br><br>Le terme technique 'chai' pourra se déduire du type de bâtiment et de<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>son rôle (encore que OSM n'ai pas à représenter un processus de<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>fabrication mais une spatialisation des éléments)</span></blockquote></div><div><br></div>Je ne sais pas trop ailleurs mais localement (Cognac) les chais ont une architecture assez spécifique et immédiatement reconnaissable.<div><br><div>Par exemple :</div><div>Chais de Porto : <<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/38040233@N03/3616458342/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/38040233@N03/3616458342/</a>></div><div>Chais à Cognac (à gauche) : <<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/padorange/201025356/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/padorange/201025356/</a>></div><div><<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/365photos-free-fr/3023013900/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/365photos-free-fr/3023013900/</a>></div><div><<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/padorange/201025508/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/padorange/201025508/</a>></div><div><br></div><div>Mais en même temps je ne trouve apparemment pas trace de chais dans osm, donc je laisse en l'état.</div><div><<a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=45.66602&lon=-0.35513&zoom=16&layers=B000FTF">http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=45.66602&lon=-0.35513&zoom=16&layers=B000FTF</a>><br><div apple-content-edited="true"> <div style="word-wrap: break-word; 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