<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><div>Le 26 sept. 2013 à 11:56, Christian Rogel <<a href="mailto:christian.rogel@club-internet.fr">christian.rogel@club-internet.fr</a>> a écrit :</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div dir="auto"><div>Ce qui est plus gênant, c'est qu'amenity désigne en principe un service ayant un intérêt pour le public, dans un sens très large, et, de plus, amoenitas a le sens, en latin, de douceur, d'état de plaisir, ce qui n'est pas vraiment approprié.</div></div></blockquote>La traduction Google donne effectivement agrément, commodité ;-)</div><div>… mais aussi équipement.</div><div><br></div><div>Je pense que Lutz a tout simplement repris le tag existant <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity=prison">amenity=prison</a>, en attendant que la réflexion sur la classe amenity débouche sur quelque chose de concret :</div><div><a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Prison">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Prison</a></div><div><br></div><div><blockquote type="cite"><span style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">Can we really call a prison an amenity? I am not a native English speaker, but that sounds very strange to me. Do we only use amenity here because we don't have a better classification? I see the need for tagging prisons, but I don't like the amenity thing. It would better fit into some kind of public_building category. </span><a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Joto" title="User:Joto" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(11, 0, 128); background-image: none; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; ">Joto</a><span style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "> 21:49, 19 December 2006 (UTC)</span><ul style="line-height: 19px; margin: 0.3em 0px 0px 1.6em; padding: 0px; list-style-image: url(data:image/png;base64,iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAAUAAAANAQMAAABb8jbLAAAABlBMVEX///8AUow5QSOjAAAAAXRSTlMAQObYZgAAABNJREFUCB1jYEABBQw/wLCAgQEAGpIDyT0IVcsAAAAASUVORK5CYII=); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em; ">I agree with you here that amenity is not exactly the right classification, and given the discussion that is appearing on several other current proposals, I think it prompts the need for a wholesale rethink of the amenity classification, either by creating subclassifications ie amenity=public_building, public_building=prison or by moving public buildings into their own classification, as is the proposal for shops. This then simplifies rendering by allow groups of related features to be turned on and off, and potentially the stripping of data when it is being prepared for use in navigation systems. So one could have a transport classification that included fuel satitons, carparks, bus stops etc, a communications classification: post offices, postboxes, telepones etc. ---<a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Batchoy" title="User:Batchoy" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(11, 0, 128); background-image: none; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">Batchoy</a> 10:13, 20 December 2006 (UTC)</li></ul></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Concernant les camps de concentration, dans quelle classe peut-on rajouter une valeur ?</div><div><ul class="MailOutline"><li><a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:historic">historic</a></li><li><a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity=prison">amenity=prison</a></li><li>autres idées …</li></ul><div>--</div></div><div>Yves</div></div></body></html>