<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">L'uniformité, c'est aussi faciliter ou simplement permettre l'exploitation de la donnée.<div><div><br>
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<br></div></div></blockquote><div>WhatttT! En clair pour facilité l'exploitation des données t'es prêt à intégrer des erreurs. Si elle sont présente dans la base c'est aussi parce qu'on explique pas dans le wiki dans quel cas on choisi un tag ou non par rapport à un autre et d'où le débat sur shrine qui par d'une simple statut et non un écrin ou assimilable à une telle chose.</div><div><br></div><div>Je veux bien généraliser mais pas au pris de mettre en erreur. Et s'il faut faire deux requête pour avoir l'ensemble, je préfère largement ça.</div><div><br></div><div>Dans le modèle ont à encore du mal à comprendre qu'il y a clé et valeur et que ce couple peux être inversé. une même valeur peux être stocké dans des clé différente. Et c'est cela qu'il faut préciser. </div><div><br></div><div>Aucun intérêt à mettre des données comme historic juste pour facilité une requête...</div><div>Tous ce qui est dans historic doit aussi exister dans d'autre tag</div><div><br></div><div>Doit-on supprimer les élément suivant de hsitoric:* parce que ça fait moins d'1%</div><div><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" style="margin-bottom:0px;border-bottom-width:0px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:20.7999992370605px"><tbody><tr><td align="" style="border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);overflow:hidden;vertical-align:top;border-bottom-width:0px;white-space:nowrap;background:rgb(232,232,228)"><div style="padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;width:200px"><span><a href="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/historic=tomb" style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(8,62,118)" target="_blank">tomb</a></span></div></td><td align="center" style="border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,221);overflow:hidden;vertical-align:top;border-bottom-width:0px;white-space:nowrap;background:rgb(232,232,228)"><div style="padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;width:260px"><div style="width:6em;float:left;text-align:right;padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;margin:0px!important">3 437</div><div style="width:5em;float:left;text-align:right;padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;margin:0px!important">0.87%</div><div style="float:left;padding:2px 6px;min-height:22px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);overflow:hidden;width:1px;margin:4px 0px 0px 6px!important;background-color:rgb(160,160,152)"></div></div></td><td align="center" style="border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);overflow:hidden;vertical-align:top;border-bottom-width:0px;white-space:nowrap;background:rgb(232,232,228)"><div style="padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;width:20px">✔</div></td><td align="left" style="border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);overflow:hidden;vertical-align:top;border-bottom-width:0px;white-space:nowrap;background:rgb(232,232,228)"><div style="padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;width:600px">Tombe à caractère historique.</div></td></tr><tr><td align="" style="border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);overflow:hidden;vertical-align:top;border-bottom-width:0px;white-space:nowrap;background:rgb(208,208,200)"><div style="padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;width:200px"><span><a href="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/historic=pa" style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(8,62,118)" target="_blank">pa</a></span></div></td><td align="center" style="border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,221);overflow:hidden;vertical-align:top;border-bottom-width:0px;white-space:nowrap;background:rgb(208,208,200)"><div style="padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;width:260px"><div style="width:6em;float:left;text-align:right;padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;margin:0px!important">2 127</div><div style="width:5em;float:left;text-align:right;padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;margin:0px!important">0.54%</div><div style="float:left;padding:2px 6px;min-height:22px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);overflow:hidden;width:1px;margin:4px 0px 0px 6px!important;background-color:rgb(160,160,152)"></div></div></td><td align="center" style="border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);overflow:hidden;vertical-align:top;border-bottom-width:0px;white-space:nowrap;background:rgb(208,208,200)"><div style="padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;width:20px">✔</div></td><td align="left" style="border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);overflow:hidden;vertical-align:top;border-bottom-width:0px;white-space:nowrap;background:rgb(208,208,200)"><div style="padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;width:600px">A New Zealand Maori Pā</div></td></tr><tr><td align="" style="border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);overflow:hidden;vertical-align:top;border-bottom-width:0px;white-space:nowrap;background:rgb(232,232,228)"><div style="padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;width:200px"><span><a href="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/historic=church" style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(8,62,118)" target="_blank">church</a></span></div></td><td align="center" style="border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,221);overflow:hidden;vertical-align:top;border-bottom-width:0px;white-space:nowrap;background:rgb(232,232,228)"><div style="padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;width:260px"><div style="width:6em;float:left;text-align:right;padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;margin:0px!important">2 033</div><div style="width:5em;float:left;text-align:right;padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;margin:0px!important">0.52%</div><div style="float:left;padding:2px 6px;min-height:22px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);overflow:hidden;width:1px;margin:4px 0px 0px 6px!important;background-color:rgb(160,160,152)"></div></div></td><td align="center" style="border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);overflow:hidden;vertical-align:top;border-bottom-width:0px;white-space:nowrap;background:rgb(232,232,228)"><div style="padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;width:20px">-</div></td><td align="left" style="border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);overflow:hidden;vertical-align:top;border-bottom-width:0px;white-space:nowrap;background:rgb(232,232,228)"><div style="padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;width:600px"> </div></td></tr><tr><td align="" style="border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);overflow:hidden;vertical-align:top;border-bottom-width:0px;white-space:nowrap;background:rgb(208,208,200)"><div style="padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;width:200px"><span><a href="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/historic=wreck" style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(8,62,118)" target="_blank">wreck</a></span></div></td><td align="center" style="border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,221);overflow:hidden;vertical-align:top;border-bottom-width:0px;white-space:nowrap;background:rgb(208,208,200)"><div style="padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;width:260px"><div style="width:6em;float:left;text-align:right;padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;margin:0px!important">1 974</div><div style="width:5em;float:left;text-align:right;padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;margin:0px!important">0.50%</div><div style="float:left;padding:2px 6px;min-height:22px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);overflow:hidden;width:1px;margin:4px 0px 0px 6px!important;background-color:rgb(160,160,152)"></div></div></td><td align="center" style="border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);overflow:hidden;vertical-align:top;border-bottom-width:0px;white-space:nowrap;background:rgb(208,208,200)"><div style="padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;width:20px">✔</div></td><td align="left" style="border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);overflow:hidden;vertical-align:top;border-bottom-width:0px;white-space:nowrap;background:rgb(208,208,200)"><div style="padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;width:600px">A a nautical craft that has unintentionally been sunk or destroyed.</div></td></tr><tr><td align="" style="border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);overflow:hidden;vertical-align:top;border-bottom-width:0px;white-space:nowrap;background:rgb(232,232,228)"><div style="padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;width:200px"><span><a href="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/historic=roman_road" style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(8,62,118)" target="_blank">roman_road</a></span></div></td><td align="center" style="border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,221);overflow:hidden;vertical-align:top;border-bottom-width:0px;white-space:nowrap;background:rgb(232,232,228)"><div style="padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;width:260px"><div style="width:6em;float:left;text-align:right;padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;margin:0px!important">1 809</div><div style="width:5em;float:left;text-align:right;padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;margin:0px!important">0.46%</div><div style="float:left;padding:2px 6px;min-height:22px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);overflow:hidden;width:0px;margin:4px 0px 0px 6px!important;background-color:rgb(160,160,152)"></div></div></td><td align="center" style="border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);overflow:hidden;vertical-align:top;border-bottom-width:0px;white-space:nowrap;background:rgb(232,232,228)"><div style="padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;width:20px">-</div></td><td align="left" style="border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);overflow:hidden;vertical-align:top;border-bottom-width:0px;white-space:nowrap;background:rgb(232,232,228)"><div style="padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;width:600px"> </div></td></tr><tr><td align="" style="border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);overflow:hidden;vertical-align:top;border-bottom-width:0px;white-space:nowrap;background:rgb(208,208,200)"><div style="padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;width:200px"><span><a href="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/historic=bunker" style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(8,62,118)" target="_blank">bunker</a></span></div></td><td align="center" style="border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,221);overflow:hidden;vertical-align:top;border-bottom-width:0px;white-space:nowrap;background:rgb(208,208,200)"><div style="padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;width:260px"><div style="width:6em;float:left;text-align:right;padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;margin:0px!important">1 723</div><div style="width:5em;float:left;text-align:right;padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;margin:0px!important">0.44%</div><div style="float:left;padding:2px 6px;min-height:22px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);overflow:hidden;width:0px;margin:4px 0px 0px 6px!important;background-color:rgb(160,160,152)"></div></div></td><td align="center" style="border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);overflow:hidden;vertical-align:top;border-bottom-width:0px;white-space:nowrap;background:rgb(208,208,200)"><div style="padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;width:20px">-</div></td><td align="left" style="border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);overflow:hidden;vertical-align:top;border-bottom-width:0px;white-space:nowrap;background:rgb(208,208,200)"><div style="padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;width:600px"> </div></td></tr><tr><td align="" style="border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);overflow:hidden;vertical-align:top;border-bottom-width:0px;white-space:nowrap;background:rgb(232,232,228)"><div style="padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;width:200px"><span><a href="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/historic=fort" style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(8,62,118)" target="_blank">fort</a></span></div></td><td align="center" style="border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,221);overflow:hidden;vertical-align:top;border-bottom-width:0px;white-space:nowrap;background:rgb(232,232,228)"><div style="padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;width:260px"><div style="width:6em;float:left;text-align:right;padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;margin:0px!important">1 723</div><div style="width:5em;float:left;text-align:right;padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;margin:0px!important">0.44%</div><div style="float:left;padding:2px 6px;min-height:22px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);overflow:hidden;width:0px;margin:4px 0px 0px 6px!important;background-color:rgb(160,160,152)"></div></div></td><td align="center" style="border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);overflow:hidden;vertical-align:top;border-bottom-width:0px;white-space:nowrap;background:rgb(232,232,228)"><div style="padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;width:20px">✔</div></td><td align="left" style="border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);overflow:hidden;vertical-align:top;border-bottom-width:0px;white-space:nowrap;background:rgb(232,232,228)"><div style="padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;width:600px">Fort</div></td></tr><tr><td align="" style="border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);overflow:hidden;vertical-align:top;border-bottom-width:0px;white-space:nowrap;background:rgb(208,208,200)"><div style="padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;width:200px"><span><a href="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/historic=manor" style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(8,62,118)" target="_blank">manor</a></span></div></td><td align="center" style="border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,221);overflow:hidden;vertical-align:top;border-bottom-width:0px;white-space:nowrap;background:rgb(208,208,200)"><div style="padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;width:260px"><div style="width:6em;float:left;text-align:right;padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;margin:0px!important">1 615</div><div style="width:5em;float:left;text-align:right;padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;margin:0px!important">0.41%</div><div style="float:left;padding:2px 6px;min-height:22px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);overflow:hidden;width:0px;margin:4px 0px 0px 6px!important;background-color:rgb(160,160,152)"></div></div></td><td align="center" style="border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);overflow:hidden;vertical-align:top;border-bottom-width:0px;white-space:nowrap;background:rgb(208,208,200)"><div style="padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;width:20px">✔</div></td><td align="left" style="border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);overflow:hidden;vertical-align:top;border-bottom-width:0px;white-space:nowrap;background:rgb(208,208,200)"><div style="padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;width:600px">Historic manors/mansions having different use today</div></td></tr><tr><td align="" style="border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);overflow:hidden;vertical-align:top;border-bottom-width:0px;white-space:nowrap;background:rgb(232,232,228)"><div style="padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;width:200px"><span><a href="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/historic=milestone" style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(8,62,118)" target="_blank">milestone</a></span></div></td><td align="center" style="border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,221);overflow:hidden;vertical-align:top;border-bottom-width:0px;white-space:nowrap;background:rgb(232,232,228)"><div style="padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;width:260px"><div style="width:6em;float:left;text-align:right;padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;margin:0px!important">1 561</div><div style="width:5em;float:left;text-align:right;padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;margin:0px!important">0.40%</div><div style="float:left;padding:2px 6px;min-height:22px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);overflow:hidden;width:0px;margin:4px 0px 0px 6px!important;background-color:rgb(160,160,152)"></div></div></td><td align="center" style="border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);overflow:hidden;vertical-align:top;border-bottom-width:0px;white-space:nowrap;background:rgb(232,232,228)"><div style="padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;width:20px">✔</div></td><td align="left" style="border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);overflow:hidden;vertical-align:top;border-bottom-width:0px;white-space:nowrap;background:rgb(232,232,228)"><div style="padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;width:600px">A historic marker that shows the distance to important destinations</div></td></tr><tr><td align="" style="border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);overflow:hidden;vertical-align:top;border-bottom-width:0px;white-space:nowrap;background:rgb(208,208,200)"><div style="padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;width:200px"><span><a href="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/historic=battlefield" style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(8,62,118)" target="_blank">battlefield</a></span></div></td><td align="center" style="border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,221);overflow:hidden;vertical-align:top;border-bottom-width:0px;white-space:nowrap;background:rgb(208,208,200)"><div style="padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;width:260px"><div style="width:6em;float:left;text-align:right;padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;margin:0px!important">1 315</div><div style="width:5em;float:left;text-align:right;padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;margin:0px!important">0.33%</div><div style="float:left;padding:2px 6px;min-height:22px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);overflow:hidden;width:0px;margin:4px 0px 0px 6px!important;background-color:rgb(160,160,152)"></div></div></td><td align="center" style="border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);overflow:hidden;vertical-align:top;border-bottom-width:0px;white-space:nowrap;background:rgb(208,208,200)"><div style="padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;width:20px">✔</div></td><td align="left" style="border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);overflow:hidden;vertical-align:top;border-bottom-width:0px;white-space:nowrap;background:rgb(208,208,200)"><div style="padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;width:600px">L'emplacement d'un champ de bataille historique.</div></td></tr><tr><td align="" style="border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);overflow:hidden;vertical-align:top;border-bottom-width:0px;white-space:nowrap;background:rgb(232,232,228)"><div style="padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;width:200px"><span><a href="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/historic=city_gate" style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(8,62,118)" target="_blank">city_gate</a></span></div></td><td align="center" style="border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,221);overflow:hidden;vertical-align:top;border-bottom-width:0px;white-space:nowrap;background:rgb(232,232,228)"><div style="padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;width:260px"><div style="width:6em;float:left;text-align:right;padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;margin:0px!important">1 292</div><div style="width:5em;float:left;text-align:right;padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;margin:0px!important">0.33%</div><div style="float:left;padding:2px 6px;min-height:22px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);overflow:hidden;width:0px;margin:4px 0px 0px 6px!important;background-color:rgb(160,160,152)"></div></div></td><td align="center" style="border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);overflow:hidden;vertical-align:top;border-bottom-width:0px;white-space:nowrap;background:rgb(232,232,228)"><div style="padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;width:20px">✔</div></td><td align="left" style="border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);overflow:hidden;vertical-align:top;border-bottom-width:0px;white-space:nowrap;background:rgb(232,232,228)"><div style="padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;width:600px">A city gate within a city wall.</div></td></tr><tr><td align="" style="border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);overflow:hidden;vertical-align:top;border-bottom-width:0px;white-space:nowrap;background:rgb(208,208,200)"><div style="padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;width:200px"><span><a href="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/historic=stone" style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(8,62,118)" target="_blank">stone</a></span></div></td><td align="center" style="border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,221);overflow:hidden;vertical-align:top;border-bottom-width:0px;white-space:nowrap;background:rgb(208,208,200)"><div style="padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;width:260px"><div style="width:6em;float:left;text-align:right;padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;margin:0px!important">1 042</div><div style="width:5em;float:left;text-align:right;padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;margin:0px!important">0.26%</div><div style="float:left;padding:2px 6px;min-height:22px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);overflow:hidden;width:0px;margin:4px 0px 0px 6px!important;background-color:rgb(160,160,152)"></div></div></td><td align="center" style="border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);overflow:hidden;vertical-align:top;border-bottom-width:0px;white-space:nowrap;background:rgb(208,208,200)"><div style="padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;width:20px">✔</div></td><td align="left" style="border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);overflow:hidden;vertical-align:top;border-bottom-width:0px;white-space:nowrap;background:rgb(208,208,200)"><div style="padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;width:600px">A stone shaped or placed by man with historical value.</div></td></tr><tr><td align="" style="border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);overflow:hidden;vertical-align:top;border-bottom-width:0px;white-space:nowrap;background:rgb(232,232,228)"><div style="padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;width:200px"><span><a href="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/historic=mine" style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(8,62,118)" target="_blank">mine</a></span></div></td><td align="center" style="border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,221);overflow:hidden;vertical-align:top;border-bottom-width:0px;white-space:nowrap;background:rgb(232,232,228)"><div style="padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;width:260px"><div style="width:6em;float:left;text-align:right;padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;margin:0px!important">1 014</div><div style="width:5em;float:left;text-align:right;padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;margin:0px!important">0.26%</div><div style="float:left;padding:2px 6px;min-height:22px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);overflow:hidden;width:0px;margin:4px 0px 0px 6px!important;background-color:rgb(160,160,152)"></div></div></td><td align="center" style="border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);overflow:hidden;vertical-align:top;border-bottom-width:0px;white-space:nowrap;background:rgb(232,232,228)"><div style="padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;width:20px">✔</div></td><td align="left" style="border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);overflow:hidden;vertical-align:top;border-bottom-width:0px;white-space:nowrap;background:rgb(232,232,228)"><div style="padding:2px 6px;border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(221,221,212);border-top-width:0px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(221,221,212);min-height:22px;overflow:hidden;width:600px">Location of abandoned underground mine workings for minerals such as coal or lead.</div></td></tr></tbody></table></div><div>....</div><div><br></div><div>Ces valeurs ont toutes une autre catégorie principale autre qu' historic et n'est pas défini systématiquement dans OSM. On ne peut pas dire qu'a chaque fois que l'on fait un manoir (genre gothic) c'est un manoir historic.</div><div><br></div><div>Je pense qu'il y a deux notions sur ce terme: </div><div>- considérer comme patrimoine et dans ce cas, ça présente un intérêt à être protéger.</div><div>- considérer comme un élémént correpondant à une période de l'histoire (géographie, politique, artistique, culturel). On peut aussi dire de <b>historic=contemporain</b></div><div><b><br></b></div><div>Quand on parle d'histoire des jardin on parle d'une période et d'un style particulier. C'est pareil pour les batiments, les tableau etc.</div></div><br>
</div><div class="gmail_extra">Faut pas oublié qu'<b>historic </b>est un adjectif et pas un nom. C'est un peu aussi le cas du <b>man_made </b>qui fait four tout et juste une opposition avec des éléments <b>natural</b>.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Il n'y a pas de logique littérale et c'est ça qui me pose le plus gros problème... </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">C'est vrai que chacun y va de son habitude de saisie( Comme le montre JB et j'en ai aussi fait de même dans d'autre sujet). </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Maintenant on ne peut juste ce permettre de réserver un usage si derrière c'est pas la pratique qui est défini ou/et précisé dans OSM d'où cette discussion.</div><div class="gmail_extra">Les limites sont flou autant  dans OSM que dans les dico car il y a des superpositions possible.</div><div class="gmail_extra">On est sur une base de données donc une abstraction. Il faut donc préciser les limites des tags et discuter des cas particuliers pour savoir comment les prendre en compte (priorité entre tags s'il y a un flou) qui peut être fait avec un nombre de point à attribuer (c'est un exemple)</div></div>