<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><div>On 26 Jun 2009, at 18:44, Roger Slevin wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>Peter<br><br>I am surprised that the proportion of unused stops was more than 10% - but<br>was the total with or without DELeted stops? ... this percentage will vary<br>significantly from areatoarea. NaPTAN guidance recommends retainging stops<br>even when they are unused - as this allows an operator to add new services<br>with the minimum of difficulty. Some areas adhere to this guidance - so<br>they will have many stops in their NaPTAN data that have ceased to be used -<br>other areas tend to remove stops soon after they have ceased to be used.<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div>Here is the breakdown of unused stops by authority. Greater Manchester has the highest percentage with 32% unused stops according to NPTDR 08 (schedules for Oct08). Possibly not a reason to not to include them but possibly the authorities with very larger numbers without big seasonal changes might be worth a second look.</div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; font-size: 10px; font-weight: bold; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span></span></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Greater Manchester </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>32%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Highland </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>30%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">West Berkshire </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>30%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Wokingham </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>29%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Scottish Borders </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>27%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Northumberland </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>27%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Bracknell Forest </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>26%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Rutland </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>25%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Cornwall </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>23%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Perth & Kinross </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>22%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Cumbria </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>21%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Warwickshire </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>20%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Worcestershire </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>20%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Durham </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>19%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Torbay </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>19%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Cheshire </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>18%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Norfolk </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>18%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Wrexham </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>17%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Ceredigion </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>17%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Powys </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>17%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Pembrokeshire </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>17%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Dumfries & Galloway </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>17%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Blackburn with Darwen </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>16%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Moray </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>16%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">North East Lincolnshire </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>15%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Bedfordshire </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>15%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Stirling </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>15%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Northamptonshire </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>15%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Staffordshire </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>15%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Hartlepool </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>15%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Middlesbrough </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>14%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Thurrock </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>14%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Leicestershire </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>14%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Orkney Islands </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>14%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Shropshire </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>14%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Blaenau Gwent </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>14%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Telford & Wrekin </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>14%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Clackmannanshire </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>14%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Bournemouth </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>13%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Dorset </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>13%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Darlington </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>13%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Vale of Glamorgan </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>13%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Monmouthshire </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>13%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Lincolnshire </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>13%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Luton </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>13%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Stockton-on-Tees </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>13%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Peterborough </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>13%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">North Yorkshire </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>13%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Gwynedd </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>12%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Bridgend </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>12%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Windsor & Maidenhead </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>12%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">York </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>12%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Derby </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>12%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Surrey </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>12%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Devon </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>12%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Edinburgh </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>12%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Suffolk </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>12%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">West Sussex </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>12%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Kent </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>12%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Leicester </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>11%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Denbighshire </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>11%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Halton </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>11%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Isle of Wight </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>11%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Merthyr Tydfil </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>11%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Conwy </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>11%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Cardiff </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>11%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Milton Keynes </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>11%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Somerset </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>11%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Oxfordshire </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>11%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">East Riding of Yorkshire </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>11%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Shetland Islands </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>10%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Falkirk </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>10%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Kingston upon Hull </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>10%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Redcar & Cleveland </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>10%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Plymouth </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>10%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Tyne & Wear </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>10%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Slough </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>10%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Cambridgeshire </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>10%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Hampshire </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>10%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Hertfordshire </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>9%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Carmarthenshire </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>9%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Gloucestershire </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>9%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Lancashire </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>9%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">East Sussex </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>9%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Angus </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>9%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Newport </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>9%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Neath Port Talbot </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>9%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Argyll & Bute </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>9%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Warrington </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>9%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Merseyside </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>9%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Flintshire </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>8%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Wiltshire </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>8%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">North Lincolnshire </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>8%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Torfaen </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>8%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Reading </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>8%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Fife </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>7%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Bristol </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>7%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Buckinghamshire </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>7%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Brighton and Hove </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>7%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Herefordshire </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>7%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Derbyshire </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>7%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Aberdeenshire </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>6%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Rhondda Cynon Taff </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>6%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Nottinghamshire </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>6%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">West Yorkshire </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>6%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Western Isles </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>6%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Isle of Anglesey </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>6%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Southend-on-Sea </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>6%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Poole </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>6%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Stoke-on-Trent </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>6%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">East Dunbartonshire </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>6%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Essex </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>6%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Swindon </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>6%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Medway </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>6%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Bath & North East Somerset </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>6%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Caerphilly </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>6%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">West Lothian </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>6%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">North Somerset </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>5%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Blackpool </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>5%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">East Lothian </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>5%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">North Ayrshire </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>5%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">South Ayrshire </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>5%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Greater London </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>5%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Swansea </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>5%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Southampton </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>4%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Nottingham </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>4%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">South Gloucestershire </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>4%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">East Ayrshire </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>4%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">South Yorkshire </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>4%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Glasgow </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>4%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">South Lanarkshire </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>3%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Renfrewshire </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>3%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">North Lanarkshire </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>3%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Inverclyde </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>3%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Dundee </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>3%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Aberdeen </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>2%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">West Dunbartonshire </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>2%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">West Midlands </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>2%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Midlothian </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>1%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Portsmouth </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>1%</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">East Renfrewshire </span><span style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Helvetica Neue'; letter-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>1%</span></div></div></div><div><br><div><div></div></div></div><div>Regards,</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Peter</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><br>Best wishes<br><br>Roger<br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: <a href="mailto:talk-transit-bounces@openstreetmap.org">talk-transit-bounces@openstreetmap.org</a><br>[<a href="mailto:talk-transit-bounces@openstreetmap.org">mailto:talk-transit-bounces@openstreetmap.org</a>] On Behalf Of Peter Miller<br>Sent: 26 June 2009 18:24<br>To: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)<br>Cc: <a href="mailto:talk-transit@openstreetmap.org">talk-transit@openstreetmap.org</a>; <a href="mailto:Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org">Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org</a><br>Subject: Re: [Talk-transit] [Talk-gb-westmidlands] NaPTAN and the new<br>PTtagging schema<br><br><br>On 26 Jun 2009, at 17:51, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote:<br><br><blockquote type="cite">Peter Miller wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Sent: 26 June 2009 4:41 PM<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">To: Thomas Wood<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Cc: <a href="mailto:Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org">Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org</a>;<br></blockquote></blockquote><a href="mailto:talk-transit@openstreetmap.org">talk-transit@openstreetmap.org</a><br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Subject: Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [Talk-transit] NaPTAN and the new<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">PTtagging schema<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Your suggestions below make a lot of sense. I would however very much<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">encourage you to include customary stops because they do indeed<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">'exist' even though there is no physical pole. Consider a road that<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">doesn't have a name plate but when you people who live on the street<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">what it is called they tell you. Does the street have a name or does<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">it not - I suggest we would agree that it does? If a tree falls in a<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">wood and there is no one to hear it did it make a sound etc. <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Customary<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">stops can be confirmed by looking for physical marks of vehicles<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">stopping or people standing around on the grass, from information at<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">the stop opposite or from asking bus drivers. I would suggest that <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">for<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">now we believe NaPTAN.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">These are easy to add in a final cleanup anyway, just by usage of <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">the route.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">The problem with the NaPTan data is that there are loads of stops <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">that are<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">probably just not used at all, hence we leave them turned off <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">(silent data).<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">I agree that we could and probably should import customary stops but <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">I don't<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">think we should assume they are actual in-use stops and hence should <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">leave<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">them silent in the database until someone confirms and adds <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">highway=bus_stop<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">For other areas of the country I think its fine (with the exception <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">of CUS<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">stops) to go ahead straight away and add the highway=bus_stop where <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">there<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">are few existing mapped stops. Ideally a post to the local uses in <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">the area<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">would confirm either way what they would like to do.<br></blockquote><br>You seem to be putting out different messages in the two above <br>paragraphs. Are you saying you support the import of CUS stops or not. <br>Also are you suggesting that bus stops are set as 'real' (ie active) <br>stops.<br><br>Possibly Roger will have some views on how many unused stops there are <br>likely to be in the dataset. Looking at the Oct08 dataset there were <br>365,000 bus stops and 42,020 of them were unused at the time however <br>this doesn't necessarily mean that they don't exist, only that no <br>buses currently use them - in some cases they could be stops for <br>summer-only services. I suggest that we should include all bus stops <br>in the dataset regardless of use. We should removed stops that don't <br>physically exist if there is no sign of them on the ground. Customary <br>stops might need a visit to the friendly local bus operator who <br>probably has all the information in his head. Physically marked stops <br>can be checked by cruising the bus routes.<br><br><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Beyond that the only bit of data I dislike from the original run is <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">the<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">unverified=yes tag. It would be better to change this to verified=no <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">for<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">future imports (and easy to swap in West Mids.)<br></blockquote><br>sounds good<br><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Otherwise my experience in Brum is generally good in that with the <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">exception<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">of location (which is 10m to 100m off at least 50% of the time) the <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">NaPTAN<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">data matches the data on the ground very well.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote>The accuracy will vary across the county and will reflect the care <br>taken by each authority. I would expect it to be better in most places <br>but might be proved wrong!<br><br>Having a map that shows the bus stops would seem to be a good step to <br>getting it improved by doing a physical survey or asking bus drivers <br>to comment. If the data is hidden in the maps and not exposed it will <br>be harder to sort out. I vote for having the data introduced as fully <br>visisbly data but possibly we do it county by county. I am happy to be <br>an early recipient of data for Suffolk and I think Ed Loach is keen to <br>see the Essex data.<br><br><br><br>Regards,<br><br><br><br>Peter<br><br><br><blockquote type="cite">I know Brian and others have documented a few oddities here:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/NaPTAN_Error_Log<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Cheers<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Andy<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Traveline would strongly advocate for their inclusion so that OSM<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">links seamlessly to their journey planners.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Regards,<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Peter<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">On 26 Jun 2009, at 16:21, Thomas Wood wrote:<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">2009/6/24 Peter Miller <peter.miller@itoworld.com>:<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">On 24 Jun 2009, at 18:20, Thomas Wood wrote:<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">2009/6/24 Peter Miller <peter.miller@itoworld.com>:<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Can I suggest that we treat this import and any final tagging <br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">as a<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">separate<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">issue on separate timeline from the NaPTAN import just so long as<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">no<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">important information in the NaPTAN DB is lost in the process.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Can you clarify what you meant by this?<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Is it essentially that we don't care about the new tagging schema<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">and<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">get on with the import?<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Yes. I would suggest that to avoid trying to agree a new tagging<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">arrangement<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">in a hurry prior to the import and keep the two projects separate.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Firstly<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">we import the rest of NaPTAN as agreed in the original discussion,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">and then<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">secondly we agree a harmonised tagging arrangement of some sort and<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">convert<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">all the data to this new format (including the NaPTAN import).<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">btw, did you mean this to be off-list? Feel free to copy the thread<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">to the<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">list if it was a mistake.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Regards,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Peter<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Ok, then to get on with the import, we need to review the errors we<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">made with the Birmingham trail, and to get their views on the data<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">review process - was it a good idea to import things without the<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">highway=bus_stop tag, to get people to add them themselves?<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">I think the one other outstanding issue is how we should represent <br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">the<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">CUS stop types, at present in the 'active' tagging mode, they'll<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">appear as fully-fledged highway=bus_stop nodes, like every other bus<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">stop type, but with the addition of naptan:BusStopType=CUS, as (a<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">rather obscure) indicator to the fact they may not exist.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">And then finally, we need to think about how we roll this out, <br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">county<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">at a time is the most obvious step, I think we order the import <br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">based<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">on requests on the transit list, followed by requests on talk-gb, <br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">with<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">a target date to import the rest by.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">And on the technical front, I'm going to have to make sure that the<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">import tools I'm using are 0.6-capable.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">I'm copying this over to the west-mids list so we can get their<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">responses.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">--<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Regards,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Thomas Wood<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">(Edgemaster)<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">_______________________________________________<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Talk-transit mailing list<br>Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org<br>http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit<br><br></div></blockquote></div><br></body></html>