Hi Gareth<div><br></div><div>Many thanks for your offer of help, but ED is correct - we've already utilised the text route directions published by Walsall Council to complete our gritting map. What would be of great benefit would be for someone to check the inconsistencies we found (see below) and feedback to us. Also it would be great if you could keep us up to date of any changes ot gritting routes.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Regards</div><div><br></div><div>Brian</div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "><h2 style="color: black; background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0.6em; margin-left: 0px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden; padding-top: 0.5em; padding-bottom: 0.17em; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: solid; border-bottom-color: rgb(170, 170, 170); width: auto; font-size: 19px; ">
<span class="mw-headline" id="Walsall_Gritting">Walsall Gritting</span></h2><p style="margin-top: 0.4em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0.5em; margin-left: 0px; line-height: 1.5em; ">Walsall's gritting routes are in the PDF at <a href="http://www.walsall.gov.uk/index/winter_service.htm" class="external free" rel="nofollow" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(51, 102, 187); background-image: url(data:image/png;base64,iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAAoAAAAKCAYAAACNMs+9AAAAGXRFWHRTb2Z0d2FyZQBBZG9iZSBJbWFnZVJlYWR5ccllPAAAAFZJREFUeF59z4EJADEIQ1F36k7u5E7ZKXeUQPACJ3wK7UNokVxVk9kHnQH7bY9hbDyDhNXgjpRLqFlo4M2GgfyJHhjq8V4agfrgPQX3JtJQGbofmCHgA/nAKks+JAjFAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC); background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; padding-right: 13px; background-position: 100% 50%; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat; ">http://www.walsall.gov.uk/index/winter_service.htm</a></p>
<p style="margin-top: 0.4em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0.5em; margin-left: 0px; line-height: 1.5em; ">There are 16 routes (p14 onwards); 8 priority 1and 8 priority 2, all centred on Cable Drive depot, at <a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.59793&lon=-1.99386&zoom=16&layers=M" class="external free" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(51, 102, 187); background-image: url(data:image/png;base64,iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAAoAAAAKCAYAAACNMs+9AAAAGXRFWHRTb2Z0d2FyZQBBZG9iZSBJbWFnZVJlYWR5ccllPAAAAFZJREFUeF59z4EJADEIQ1F36k7u5E7ZKXeUQPACJ3wK7UNokVxVk9kHnQH7bY9hbDyDhNXgjpRLqFlo4M2GgfyJHhjq8V4agfrgPQX3JtJQGbofmCHgA/nAKks+JAjFAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC); background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; padding-right: 13px; background-position: 100% 50%; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat; ">http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.59793&lon=-1.99386&zoom=16&layers=M</a></p>
<p style="margin-top: 0.4em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0.5em; margin-left: 0px; line-height: 1.5em; ">If you are able & willing to tag one of these routes with:</p><ul style="line-height: 1.5em; list-style-type: square; margin-top: 0.3em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 1.5em; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; list-style-image: url(data:image/png;base64,iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAAUAAAANCAMAAABW4lS6AAAAGXRFWHRTb2Z0d2FyZQBBZG9iZSBJbWFnZVJlYWR5ccllPAAAAAZQTFRFAFKM////QIUK9QAAAAJ0Uk5T/wDltzBKAAAAGklEQVR42mJgBAEGokgGBjBGBxBxsBqAAAMACHwALd5r8ygAAAAASUVORK5CYII=); ">
<li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em; ">maintenance=gritting</li><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em; ">gritting=priority_1 (routes 1-8)</li><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em; ">gritting=priority_2 (routes 9-16)</li><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em; ">
gritting_route_ref=1 (numbers 1-8)</li><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em; ">gritting_operator=Walsall MBC (The latter mainly to differentiate from neighbouring authorities)</li></ul><ol style="line-height: 1.5em; margin-top: 0.3em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 3.2em; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; list-style-image: none; ">
<li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em; ">- Andy Mabbett - Done.</li><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em; ">- Andy Mabbett - (problem: p17, After first "stop gritting", no "start gritting" before next "stop"; I've assumed gritting starts again on Littleton Street East, otherwise, why is the lane specified?). Owen Road & Birmingham Street sections also confusing. References to "Anson Road Junction"/ "Anson Junction" make no sense. Ends with two "stop gritting" sections. - Stopped at first "Anson" reference.</li>
<li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em; ">- Andy Mabbett - After Broadway, where is TR from West Bromwich Road to West Bromwich Street? - Otherwise, done.</li><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em; ">- Andy Mabbett - Done.</li><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em; ">
- Andy Mabbett - Why the apparent detour, up and down Spring Road, without gritting? "Lichfield Street Left Slip Road" added to map. - Done.</li><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em; ">- Andy Mabbett - lines 3-5 ("Foley Rd") not clear - Otherwise, done.</li>
<li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em; ">- Andy Mabbett - Norton Road does not run to boundary, so assume this includes part of Lime Lane?; No Wyrley Road, so assume Wyrley Lane; Can't find Castle Road off Howdles Lane. - Done.</li>
<li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em; ">- Brian - `Problems follow: Bradford St TL to Corporation St TR Pleck Road - couldn't make any sense of these directions. Entrance to and exit from Park Road Bloxwich is ambiguous; is my choice the correct one? High St Bloxwich TL and start gritting Green Lane: is the slip road the route and does it get gritted? Also TL from High St is into Somerfield Road which only becomes Green Lane after the roundabout according to our data. - DONE</li>
<li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em; ">- Brian Problems follow Essington Rd TR Dorchester Rd should be TL. DONE</li><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em; ">- Brian Problems follow Is Diversion due to Bridge Closure on Bentley Road South still in operation? DONE</li>
<li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em; ">- Brian Problems follow Wolverhampton St TR Pinfold St Stop Gritting should be TL. DONE</li><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em; ">- Brian DONE</li><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em; ">- Brian Problems follow: Chester Rd TR Lazy Hill Road should read TL.At end of route Chester Rd TR Castlehill Rd should read TL DONE</li>
<li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em; ">- Brian Turn direction Daw End Lane to King George Crescent missing. Turn direction King George Crescent to Floyds Lane missing - have I chosen the correct direction? Broadway North TL Princes Avenue not sure I've used the correct route here. DONE</li>
<li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em; ">- Brian DONE - there were problems but I lost all my wiki edits - they're only minor and the gritting route is complete</li><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em; ">- Brian Problems follow: Harden Rd TR start gritting Coalpool Lane - Coalpool Lane is TL from Harden Rd. The Pinfold TL Goodhall St is Woodall St according to our data and OS StreetView. Ingram Road TR Start gritting Field Road SO The Pinfold - to do this you need Ingram Road TL. Wolverhampton Road TL Clarendon St you need TR. New St TR Stop gritting Clarendon ST TL Elmore Green Rd to get to Elmore Green Rd you need New St TL Clarendon St. DONE</li>
</ol></span><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 23 October 2011 11:46, Gareth Illmann-Walker <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:subscribe@illmann-walker.com">subscribe@illmann-walker.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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Hi all,<br>
<br>
As I'm a councillor in Walsall and just happened to be on the Winter
Planning Sub-Committee, I'm more than happy to ask for the routes
(for Walsall) on your behalf, can't think of any reason they'd not
give them me.<br>
<br>
However as I've been out with the gritters you should note that the
routes start and stop quite a lot so they're not like one continuous
route. This is because there is crossover in terms of the routes the
drivers have to take to get to the roads they actually have to grit.<br><font color="#888888">
<br>
Gareth</font><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
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On 22/10/2011 14:55, Brian Prangle wrote:
</div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div></div><div class="h5">Hi everyone
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<div>Thanks to Andy Mabbett for showing us where these files are
located. I went to start editing one of the gritting routes
today and discovered that the pdf files are all crown copyright
maps derived from the OS so are in fact useless for our
purposes- what we need are text-based descriptions - ideally the
actual routes given to the gritting drivers as published by
Solihull, Wolverhampton and Walsall; or a list of streets as
published by Birmingham</div>
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<div>Regards</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Brian</div>
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