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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Andrew,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>As far as I am aware it was never intended to be available for when the tunnels were closed.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Andy<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Andrew Mackenzie [mailto:a.mackenzie@bethere.co.uk] <br><b>Sent:</b> 12 July 2013 17:02<br><b>To:</b> Andy Robinson<br><b>Cc:</b> 'Brian Prangle'; 'talk-gb-westmidlands'; 'Andrew Radford'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] OSM and tunnel closures<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Yes I said I wouldn't go if the meeting on the 15th if was to discuss having an app in the future. BCC needed to commission it a few weeks ago to get something built for use while the tunnels are closed. Given the limited budget it costs more to discuss than build.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Andrew<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 12 Jul 2013, at 16:52, "Andy Robinson" <<a href="mailto:ajrlists@gmail.com">ajrlists@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Andrew,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Re the routing App BCC have a meeting to discuss this next week. Stu and I are due to be present.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Cheers</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Andy</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Andrew Mackenzie [mailto:a.mackenzie@<a href="http://bethere.co.uk/"><span style='color:purple'>bethere.co.uk</span></a>]<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><br><b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>12 July 2013 14:44<br><b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Brian Prangle<br><b>Cc:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Andy Robinson; talk-gb-westmidlands; Andrew Radford<br><b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] OSM and tunnel closures</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hi all<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks Brian. Will be interesting to see how OSM routing compares with the new Google maps.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Open Mercia people are trying to engage Amey about publishing open data, for example traffic flows. So far they refer us to<a href="http://www.amey.co.uk/brumtunnels.aspx"><span style='color:purple'>http://www.amey.co.uk/brumtunnels.aspx</span></a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>No news as yet from Birmingham City Council about whether they have commissioned a cycling app with routing using OSM. Would be a great opportunity to give people some information which helps them try cycling as an alternative, especially during A38 summer closure.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>For those who have not seen the Tunnel closures on a map <a href="http://www.amey.co.uk/Portals/0/images/brumtunnels/BirminghamMap_LRG.jpg"><span style='color:purple'>http://www.amey.co.uk/Portals/0/images/brumtunnels/BirminghamMap_LRG.jpg</span></a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Andrew<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 12 Jul 2013, at 12:46, Brian Prangle <<a href="mailto:brian@mappa-mercia.org"><span style='color:purple'>brian@mappa-mercia.org</span></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Andy<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>We discussed this previously and agreed that construction wasn't the best tag so we agreed I think to put a block at each end which would allow the routing engines to avoid the route. I also suggest that we add Closed 19 July- 2 Sep to the name. I can make sure I do both on both he opening and closing dates<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Regards<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>brian<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Andy Robinson <<a href="mailto:ajrlists@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span style='color:purple'>ajrlists@gmail.com</span></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>See email below from Andy Radford at BCC.<br><br>Personally my feelings is that changes can and should be made as long as<br>those doing the edits remember to revert back at the end of the process. For<br>the tunnels we have two choices, either show the tunnel as construction or<br>just change some access tags.<br><br>Andy, I assume you can make the changes only you will know about. 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