[Talk-GB] Yet another rail network map
peter.miller at itoworld.com
Thu Dec 18 11:55:10 GMT 2008
On 18 Dec 2008, at 11:12, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote:
> For features with a previous use (eg abandoned stations) I have more
> of as
> problem at this juncture of the project. At some point I'd really
> like to be
> able to record some historical map data but I don't feel we have the
> and editing visualisation to do it properly at the moment. I also
> have a big
> concern about how old features which have now been lost (no visual
> representation) can reside with objects that are at the same
> location today.
> In some cases, especially for roads, parts of old may be
> incorporated into
> the present.
Ok, so the only abandoned stations that should be included are ones
where the actual station still exists, even if it has been re-
purposed. An abandoned station with the old platform visible and
possibly a derelict building could be shown as
railway=abandoned_station. A re-purposed station could possibly be
tagged as building=restaurant and railway=abandoned_station?
If all physical evidence of the station has gone then it should not be
Should the same rules apply to railway lines and to other historical
features - ie if they have completely gone then they should not be
A railway line that is now a footpath, or a cycle path or even an
identifiable strip of wildlife and tress should be shown but if it is
now plowed fields then it should not be shown?
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: talk-gb-bounces at openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-gb-
>> bounces at openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Peter Miller
>> Sent: 18 December 2008 10:52 AM
>> To: Steve Chilton
>> Cc: talk-gb at openstreetmap.org
>> Subject: [Talk-GB] Yet another rail network map
>> On 17 Dec 2008, at 22:03, Steve Chilton wrote:
>>> Bizarely, the day Kaerest released his openrailmap I had rendered a
>>> UK rail network map - purely for visualisation and checking
>>> purposes, but have only just had time to upload it to the server.
>>> It is at: http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~steve8/railway.html
>>> No particular plans to enhance it or add details.
>>> It is just a companion to:
>>> which has been re-rendered with last week's UK planet file.
>> Great stuff (and great minds!). Is there an agreed (or common)
>> approach to tagging abandoned/dismantled railway stations? There
>> anything in map features about it, but it would be great content to
>> have in there in OSM, particularly for those with an interest in
>> historical railways. To render historical stations on these maps
>> encourage contributors (as in 'render and they will come').
>> What about proposed lines and stations? There are a number of these
>> the UK and again it would be very useful to be able to see where they
>> were. railway=construction construction=rail? railway=proposed
>> On the subject of historical railways, can one use start-date and
>> date attributes to animate the life of the UK's railway network,
>> watching it growing a shrinking over the years. There may be some
>> complex cases where a line opened, closed and was then re-opened, but
>> we could leave that for now in order to get the basic information in.
>> Could these maps render the 'lanes' tag, around which there seems to
>> be an emerging consensus for showing the number of tracks, typically
>> 1 for single track working, 2 and the 4. The rendering should use a
>> different style for single track working and multi-track, typically
>> using a different symbol.
>> How about rendering speed limits using colour? There are some
>> of track with max-speed already, but this rendering would greatly
>> encouraged if it for other areas.
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