[Talk-GB] Drinking Map of UK
bprangle at gmail.com
Tue Nov 15 15:40:08 GMT 2011
Just dome some armchair mapping in Hereford where the HP Bulmer site is a
massive industrial complex so I don't think ciderhouse or press or mill is
somehow appropriate so I've labelled it industrial=brewery for the
meantime. Perhaps we should also have industrial=cider? The Bulmers site
in tagQueries which is in Ireland will probably be the same (and possibly
Magners - but that might come out of the Bulmers Irish site)
On 15 November 2011 14:07, Richard Fairhurst <richard at systemed.net> wrote:
> Steve Doerr wrote:
> > The Oxford English Dictionary got it wrong then:
> > *cider-house* n. a building in which cider is made.
> Far be it for me to criticise the august OED (though I'm more of a Chambers
> man), but yes, it did.
> http://www.thecoronationtap.com/ - "Clifton's original, and still it's
> http://www.ukcider.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Cider_house - "A Cider House is
> a pub that serves only cider. They used to be quite common, but there are
> only a handful left. Often they were little more than a room in a farmhouse
> or cottage, selling cider for consumption on the premises."
> and perhaps the definitive description, by the late Paul Gunningham at
> http://www.somersetmade.co.uk/oldscrump/ciderhouses-ciderbar.php :
> "Ye Olde Cider Bar in Newton Abbot, Devon, England is a very special place
> for scrumpy users; special because it is a surviving example of a rarity
> whose numbers have dwindled over the centuries: the cider house. As the
> implies, this is a bar that sells cider to the public, but a cider house is
> not a pub - maybe most (if not all) pubs these days sell some form of cider
> (even though most only sell the inferior keg variety), but a cider house
> definitely does not sell any beer!
> "Once upon a time there was a large number of alehouses in England, selling
> only ale (beer) to the public, and similarly there were many cider houses
> dispensing cider to their thirsty patrons. Over the years, alehouses became
> public houses selling a wider range of drinks than just beer - wines and
> spirits included. Meanwhile, many former cider houses became pubs, with the
> result that today we expect our pubs to sell just about any form of
> alcoholic drink, as well as soft drinks.
> "At the last count, there were only four surviving cider houses in England
> in the whole of Britain, for that matter. One of these extremely rare and
> special places is this cider house in Devon - Ye Olde Cider Bar in the
> market town of Newton Abbot on the scenic River Teign, between historic
> Exeter and the tourist resort of Torquay."
> and so on.
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