[Talk-GB] Hampshire Vandalization - No Bere Forest?
rw_norris at hotmail.com
Sat Apr 14 13:04:39 BST 2012
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> > > Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 03:27:31 +0100
> > > From: openstreetmap at jordan-maynard.org
> > > To: talk-gb at openstreetmap.org
> > > Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Hampshire Vandalization - No Bere Forest?
> > >
> > > On 29/03/2012 19:30, Robert Norris wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I've just noticed Bere Forest (and trails) has been wiped from the map:
> > > > http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=50.91178&lon=-1.15578&zoom=15
> > > >
> > > > It's literally empty space!
> > > >
> > > > Probably most where Andy Steets initial trials, but he's agreed so was
> > > > there some over zealous deletion by some one?
> > > >
> > > > Unfortunately the history service contains to many world edits to be of
> > > > use, and the general OSM history is quit slow at the moment.
> > > > I think user monxton has tried to repair stuff.
> > >
> > > If it helps, I don't mind if you revert my changesets to get back to a
> > > better place. I reinstated the roads, but clearly there's a lot more
> > > that went missing too.
> > >
> > This afternoon I went to the Forest of Bere in search of Bluebells as recommended by the Woodland Trust website 
> > However it didn't live up to it's 5 star rating, but it was quite nice nevertheless - maybe I'm a bit late for Bluebells - there were some but not that many.
I now realise the 5 star rating is for overall wood, not just the Bluebell quality (my mistake).
> I've not been down there this year but IIRC the Upperford Copse/Woodend
> bit is often a good area for Bluebells.
Doh! That's the bit I didn't go to.
That needs remapping especially for the missing Soberton and Newtown Millennium Walk route.
> > So I've had a good wander and should be able to redo most main tracks (there's also loads of little paths - which where never in before anyway - not that I walked many of them).
> Great stuff!
> > What's all nice is the Forestry Commission allow you to cycle on *all* paths, and horse riding is by permit only (tag as 'horse=permit' ?)
> Be careful as not all parts of the forest have the same access
> permissions. As a rule of thumb I'd say that it is worth double checking
> any part of the forest that you have to cross a road to access.
Yes, although their own leaflet which I picked up there (West Walk section) I quote "The Forestry Commission welcomes walkers, cyclists and horse riders to use any of the forest trails. Horse riders will need a permit, ...". Also available here: (http://www.forestry.gov.uk/pdf/WestWalk.pdf/$FILE/WestWalk.pdf)
IIRC the OSM map before had the Upperford Copse as footpaths only which is correct (I remember once going to cycle there several years ago but found out I was not allowed). The Southern section (name North Boarhunt?) only has signs about 'Riders needing permits', which previously I thought applied to cyclists. But now I think means Horse Riders.
Well I've now finished my edits (http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/robbieonsea/edits) and hopefully got them right, but still many more paths there and the 'Oak Trail' is only partly surveyed.
> > I'll remap it time permitting tomorrow morning (out and about tonight) plus fixing the longer routes that go through it from previous outings / and renewed knowledge.
> > I didn't go to the north parts of the Upperford Copse section though.
> > http://visitwoods.org.uk/en/visit-woods/Pages/get-involved.aspx
> It looks like the rain is clearing here so I'll probably try and get out
> this afternoon to put some of Swanmore parish back on the map. I've
> started up the Bishop's Waltham & Dundridge valley end and slowly making
> my way back towards the village.
I was lucky yesterday - the sky looked quite black when I started and tried to rain - but then it rapidly improved into sunshine :)
Maybe we should organize an East Hampshire OSM people (maybe for a pub walk / or mapping party ) get together some time this summer - it would be great to meet AndyS, NickW and any other like minded individuals.
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