[Talk-GB] License change & anonymous edits
david at frankieandshadow.com
Tue Jan 10 15:45:21 GMT 2012
On 10/01/2012 14:53, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> On 01/10/12 15:37, Frederik Ramm wrote:
>>> Yes, the trouble is when Frederik pointed this out and referred to the
>>> page, it says it is for cases where the suspect edit has been wiped out,
>>> not simply verified from other sources. How can you change the name from
>>> itself to itself and actually have changed anything?
>> Just delete the name tag and re-add it. It's not your fault if the
>> editor doesn't upload that to the API then ;)
> More seriously: There is *no* way you can acquire intellectual property
> of something by saying that "I have looked it up and it is correct".
> You either have to remove it and re-create it, even if the result looks
> the same - even if, and hence my snarky remark in the previous email,
> the API doesn't actually see your actions -, or you have to dispute that
> there was any intellectual property in the first place.
> But doing neither - i.e., saying "yes, 80n did have intellectual
> property on this one, and no, I didn't change it, but yes, it is now
> ODbL clean" is, in my eyes, a legal impossibility.
I don't see what the physical act of pressing the keys on the keyboard
to retype the name achieves. It's the source of the newly uploaded data
(which would contain odbl clean) that matters, not the characters it is
composed of. If I retype the name and then mark it odbl clean, what ends
up in the database is ABSOLUTELY IDENTICAL with what was there before
other than the odbl clean assertion. Why does pressing the keys make any
difference whatsoever? The original contributor doesn't own the
copyright in the name, only their contribution, and by marking it odbl
clean I'm making an alternative contribution which asserts the source is
This is an issue for everyone, not just me. If lawyers are involved it
should be legal advice to all of us organised centrally.
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