Phillip<br>OSM has always taken a very conservative approach on licensing and if in doubt has erred on the side of caution.<br><br>Following this philosophy you cannot agree to the contributor terms.<br><br>If you can find a way to revert your OS contributions then you would be able to agree to the new contributor terms. <br>
<br>Alternatively, if someone were to provide a way to change the authorship of those changesets to a different user ID that remained CC-BY-SA then you would also be free to agree to the new license. Doing this would actually just postpone the reversion of those changesets and it would happen later, after the license switch, when all CC-BY-SA licensed data would get purged from the database. <br>
<br>80n<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 8:06 PM, Barnett, Phillip <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:PHILLIP.BARNETT@itn.co.uk">PHILLIP.BARNETT@itn.co.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
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April 2006, and I’ve contributed approximately 1320 changesets in that
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but is it too late? Surely it’s just a question of removing the ‘tainted’
changesets? Or, to be safe, all the changesets I’ve contributed since the
OS data became available?</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; font-weight: bold;" lang="EN-US">From:</span></font></b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;" lang="EN-US">
<a href="mailto:talk-gb-bounces@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">talk-gb-bounces@openstreetmap.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:talk-gb-bounces@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">talk-gb-bounces@openstreetmap.org</a>] <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>80n<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> 22 August 2010 18:41<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> David
Groom<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> <a href="mailto:Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org</a><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Talk-GB] Why I'm not
currently using OS Opendat as a source WAS The last 2%</div></div></span></font><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 3:23 PM, David Groom
<<a href="mailto:reviews@pacific-rim.net" target="_blank">reviews@pacific-rim.net</a>>
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Peat" <<a href="mailto:kevin@kevinpeat.com" target="_blank">kevin@kevinpeat.com</a>><br>
To: "Robert Whittaker (OSM)" <<a href="mailto:robert.whittaker%2Bosm@gmail.com" target="_blank">robert.whittaker+osm@gmail.com</a>>;
<<a href="mailto:Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org</a>><br>
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 2:45 PM<br>
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Why I'm not currently using OS Opendat as a source WAS
The last 2%</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">However, that doesn't
change the fact that the OS OpenData license is<br>
incompatible with the contributor terms, and DbCL, and quite possibly<br>
ODbL too.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">I thought this was still
to be confirmed? It may not be that important to<br>
townies but there is a lot of value in the OS data for rural mappers (woods,<br>
streams, rivers, coastline, etc.) and it is a crucial issue for me.</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">It is still to be confirmed. The situation at the moment is there
is no guarantee that OS OpenData is compatible with the CT's.<br>
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Hence if you currently contribute anything based on OS OpenData to OSM
you run the risk that you will be prevented from contributing to OSM in the
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To be clear about this, you can still continue to contribute OS OpenData to OSM
providing you have not, and do not, agree to the new contributor terms. <br>
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If you have already contributed content derived from OS OpenData then you
cannot and should not agree to the contributor terms as they currently stand.<br>
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Your contributions will not be lost because there will probably always be a
place where these contributions continue to be editable and available under
CC-BY-SA. This may not be OSM but it is likely there will be sites that
continue to maintain CC-BY-SA licensed content.<br>
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I am aware that the LWG have been considering the matter since at least 8 June
[1] , but that as 17 August they have yet to ask legal counsels opinion on this
[2].<br>
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David</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">[1] <a href="https://docs.google.com/View?id=dd9g3qjp_67f465m4cd" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/View?id=dd9g3qjp_67f465m4cd</a><br>
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[2] <a href="https://docs.google.com/View?id=dd9g3qjp_77rbr8fgfw" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/View?id=dd9g3qjp_77rbr8fgfw</a></span></font></p>
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