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Hi<br>
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I do add footpath reference numbers routinely within my own area of
operations where (a) footpath signs sometimes - not often - carry
the numbers and (b) the Highway Authority publishes the numbers not
only on their interactive version of their definitive map but also
as an Excel spreadsheet (with paths identified by 10 digit grid
references at each end). I know that there has been discussion as to
whether identifying the path from an on-line map (which uses an OS
base map) is a breach of OS copyright (as they have refused so far
to include public rights of way in their 2010 data liberalisation -
stress PUBLIC RIGHTS of way - so making the liberalised maps still
useless for walkers) but I cannot believe that the spreadsheet is
covered by an OS licence just because the coordinates use the
British national grid rather than latitude and longitude - given
that there is a mathematical conversion between the two. The Highway
Authority itself believes that information about PUBLIC RIGHTS of
way is free of any copyright constraints and is there for the
public's benefit (and published at their expense using taxpayers'
funds) and that both the interactive map and the spreadsheet can be
freely use (but not - of course - the underlying mapping).<br>
<br>
In the IoW example cited by others, the fact that the numbers are
almost always on the signs (excellent practice) does not say who put
the numbers there nor how they obtained the numbers. In my area it
is usually the relevant Parish Councils who do the numbering - not
the Highway Authority - and who knows where they get the information
(<span class="moz-smiley-s1"><span> :-) </span></span><span
class="moz-smiley-s1"><span> :-) </span></span>).<br>
<br>
If the OS is still in wrecking mode and there remain copyright
concerns for Nick's purposes (and well done Nick for your
contributions to the commonweal!) then use of lat-long references to
either end might be the let-out - as suggested by others. But bear
in mind that a search on highway=footway would perhaps miss most
bridleways and byways that are often also public rights of way.<br>
<br>
The more general thought here is that I map footpaths etc. like
everyone else - i.e. by walking them with a hand-held GPS. For my
own convenience this is set up to display the OS grid reference
(British National Grid) and OS datum. The resulting GPX file is
uploaded to OSM where it - of course - appears with lat-long
coordinates. Is this any different to using a spreadsheet including
OS grid references to identify paths (and converting them manually
or automatically to lat-long for OSM use)? <span
class="moz-smiley-s3"><span> ;-) </span></span><br>
<br>
Mike<br>
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