<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 3 February 2011 14:32, Gregory <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nomoregrapes@googlemail.com">nomoregrapes@googlemail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
I'm upset that the blue(95%+) area in the North East turns out to be Darlington, which I believe is tracers that started OS once it was available.<div>I've used the OS Locator tool around Durham, mainly in JOSM, to get towards that 95%, and I turned a bit addicted. It makes me worried that I might go beyond reasonable edits(country roads with no signs, broken signs, my own mistakes/omissions, etc) and just stay at home in my arm chair (it's been cold outside). One village I know isn't done, so it's reminded me to go out and do that. I much rather prefer to create roads than to adjust their locations, so I think it's better I start with my GPS trace rather than OS Locator.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Peter, I know the ITO locator layer only shows missing names and that you're not just checking name=* (if the OS has a different name for some reason). What is the list of other name tags that get used?</div>
</blockquote><div><br>name, not:name, alt:name name:en, name"{lang} and possiby a few more.<br><br>Peter<br> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div><br></div><div>Gregory.<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 3 February 2011 14:08, Matt Amos <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:zerebubuth@gmail.com" target="_blank">zerebubuth@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Ed Avis <<a href="mailto:eda@waniasset.com" target="_blank">eda@waniasset.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Dair Grant <dair@...> writes:<br>
><br>
>>> There is suggestion raised by a number of people, but refuted by others that<br>
>>> imports reduce the number of contributors.<br>
>><br>
>>It has been denied, not refuted. I think the closest there is to real data<br>
>>on the effect is:<br>
>><br>
>><<a href="http://www.asklater.com/matt/wordpress/2009/09/imports-and-the-community-ii" target="_blank">http://www.asklater.com/matt/wordpress/2009/09/imports-and-the-community-ii</a>><br>
><br>
> We do also have real data on the effect of not doing imports - the towns which<br>
> are almost completely unmapped. While importing data from OS may not be ideal,<br>
> doing nothing and waiting for somebody to go and map it doesn't seem like a<br>
> successful strategy either, if the past five years are a guide.<br>
><br>
> For prosperous city areas there is no difficulty finding a local mapper who will<br>
> take on a new hobby to get away from the computer screen for a few hours. But<br>
> OSM has a real coverage gap in socially disadvantaged areas (Fake SteveC has a<br>
> pithier name for them). But we want a complete map and not just a map of where<br>
> the typical OSM contributor lives. If using some of the work already done by<br>
> the Ordnance Survey helps us get there, that has to be a good thing.<br>
<br>
</div>my experience of the OS data traced into my local area is that it's<br>
been almost entirely inaccurate. if this is the case where a typical<br>
OSM contributor lives then i'd assume that people tracing over OS have<br>
introduced several hundred inaccurate features in London alone.<br>
perhaps if the people enamoured of tracing OS would organise a mapping<br>
party, or reach out to local community groups (people still live in<br>
socially disadvantaged areas, right?) then we could create a complete,<br>
living map, rather than a road-network-complete, dead one.<br>
<br>
cheers,<br>
<font color="#888888"><br>
matt<br>
</font><div><div></div><div><br>
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