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On 10/03/2011 13:09, Phil Endecott wrote:
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cite="mid:1299762572301@dmwebmail.dmwebmail.chezphil.org"
type="cite">Ed Avis wrote:
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<blockquote type="cite">These maps will probably become
collector's items:
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<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-12684156"><http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-12684156></a>
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What struck me was this quote:
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"She also confirmed that some previously unnamed parts of the
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loch had been named after cartographers and rangers who had
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worked together on the mapping project.
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"The spokeswoman explained names given after people was a
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common map-making tradition"
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Err... it is? OK, maybe in the 19th century if you were Robert
Fitzroy in Patagonia, but I don't imagine any cartographer today
is just making up names! (Hopefully not any OSM contributors or
anyone at the O.S., anyway...)
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Phil
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Actually, it's pretty common : at least in Nature Reserves. <br>
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There is often a need to describe quite small features amongst the
group of people who record, conserve or otherwise make use of these
places. Sometimes these just receive a number, for instance
'compartment 73' (I have a map of compartment numbers for Clumber
Park, but it's an internal National Trust document, they are used <a
href="http://www.fieldmycology.net/FRDBI/FRDBIrecord.asp?strVC=56&strName=Amanita+citrina+var.+citrina">though</a>),
or a letter ('G' Marsh, 'L' Meadow), but many are either epyonyms,
or twee names based on more charismatic members of the local fauna
& flora. <br>
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I have added several of these 'made-up' names which are in common
usage around Attenborough Nature Reserve: the <a
href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/34332348">Delta</a>,
<a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/30731745">Warbler
Dell</a>, <a
href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/34332364">Dirty
Island Bank</a>, <a
href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/34332496">Butterfly
Patch</a> (in use since the 1960's), <a
href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/2877873">Corbett's
Meadow</a> (a recent 'official' coinage, in memory of Keith
Corbett who was reserve manager for over 30 years until his death in
2007), which is also known locally as "The Fisherman's Car Park",
and "The Old Car Park", and <a
href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/29705417">Education
Wood</a> (a recent unofficial coinage, around 2005). As all the
water bodies were created by gravel working, their names have
evolved recently too. I have only added those which are in
widespread usage: there are perhaps 50-odd names which were coined
in the '60s and '70s, mostly eponymic toponyms, but many never
caught on.<br>
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If I knew how, I'd add very local names to the swimming holes on
Fairham Brook by Keyworth Meadow NR: see Neil Pinder's <a
href="http://www.ourkeyworth.co.uk/meadow_history/Sailors_at_Fairham_Brook.shtml">article
</a>on the parish website.<br>
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<a
href="http://www.carsingtonbirdclub.co.uk/cbc/images/Carsington_Water_AerialCBC_master.jpg">Carsington
Reservoir</a> is another location where local birders have evolved
a significant number of toponyms.<br>
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If you check any of the Helm "Where to Watch Birds" regional guides
I'm sure you could find many more examples.<br>
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Of course the difference between these names is that in the main
they are naming new features or un-named features rather than
coining new names out of ignorance or exaggerated self-esteem which
appears to be the case at Loch Lomond.<br>
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Personally the ability to map these hyper-local toponyms is a very
attractive part of OSM. Of course, they need to be researched
accurately to ensure they are names which are used rather than
'book-names'.<br>
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Jerry<br>
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PS. Damn, this is beginning to look like another blog post!<br>
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