<p>A few months ago there was a proposal to define defaults for given areas so you only tag exceptions. That sounded very sensible to me, but I do not know what happened to it.</p>
<p>Graham</p>
<p>from my phone</p>
<p><blockquote type="cite">On 16 Mar 2011 18:59, "Richard Bullock" <<a href="mailto:rb357@cantab.net">rb357@cantab.net</a>> wrote:<br><br><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p><font color="#500050">> In summary, this little tag is much less simple than it may appear at first<br>> glance! I am very in...</font></p>
Being pedantic back can anyone demonstrate the existence of a 60 mph sign on<br>
a single carriageway road?<br>
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I can certainly do that. I believe this one was places to "remind" drivers that, despite having four lanes, it's still a single carriageway and => 60mph max<br>
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<a href="http://tinyurl.com/6x5u4la" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/6x5u4la</a><br>
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In this case, it's probably technically "national", but specifically signed at 60.<br>
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I know of a couple of examples of cases on a dual-carriageway where it's specifically signed 70mph AND most definitely not the national speed limit.<br>
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<a href="http://tinyurl.com/66pucm7" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/66pucm7</a><br>
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The reason it's not the national speed limit, is because of the way that the legal orders that created this stretch of road were drawn up. In this particular example, this type of road has no national speed limit - and a white sign with black diagonal line would mean genuinely derestricted. (It's a non-motorway special-road in case you're asking - and special-roads only have a national speed limit if they are also motorways - hence a specific 70mph speed limit order had to be drawn up).<br>
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Back to the point in question, however;<br>
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Do we *really* need to be tagging national speed limits on individual ways? E.g. the vast majority of roads ought to be one of;<br>
*residential roads subject to 30mph<br>
*rural roads subject to NSL<br>
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(I realise a lot of councils have been cutting lots of roads from NSL -> 50 in recent years, but I'm sure NSLs outnumber 50s on the whole)<br>
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Perhaps we could tag the ones that differ from the above - and let post-processors add national defaults as necessary?<br>
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