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<td>Re: Other Routes with Public Access</td>
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<td>Thu, 24 Mar 2011 10:10:19 +0000</td>
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<td>Mike Harris <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mikh@delco.idps.co.uk"><mikh@delco.idps.co.uk></a></td>
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<td>Tom Hughes <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:tom@compton.nu"><tom@compton.nu></a></td>
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<td>Mike Harris <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mikh43@googlemail.com"><mikh43@googlemail.com></a>,
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I would assume that information that is, for example, based on
personal local knowledge or on personal conversations with people
having such knowledge (including but not restricted to public
servants in the Highway Authority) is a legitimate and unencumbered
source. There are also, in some areas at least, lists of ORPAs that
are publicly available (in the same way that the 'List of Streets'
is publicly available). I am not aware of ORPAs ever being signed as
such (although a few do have some sort of signage indicating that
there is a public right of access - and others illegally indicating
otherwise!).<br>
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I am not insensitive to the need for OSM to remain free of any
copyright or similar restrictions but I do not think absence of
physical signage <i>ipso facto</i> constitutes such a barrier to
use.<br>
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Mike Harris<br>
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On 24/03/2011 09:37, Tom Hughes wrote:
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<pre wrap="">On 24/03/11 09:10, Mike Harris wrote:
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<pre wrap="">PLEASE do not remove the ORPA designations - they are meaningful and
important (in the UK). An ORPA is a way that is not a "public right of
way" (i.e. public footpath, public bridleway, restricted byway or 'byway
open to all traffic') but nevertheless has legal rights for at least
pedestrian use.
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<pre wrap="">Nobody has questioned the importance of the information or whether it
should be recorded.
What has been questioned is whether the information that a particular
path has that designation has come from a legitimate unencumbered source
that we are able to use or whether it has come from sources which are
subject to copyright and/or database right and which hence should not
have been used.
If the information has been acquired in a legitimate way then I don't
think anybody has a problem with it staying - if it hasn't then it will
need to be removed.
Tom
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<div class="moz-signature">-- <br>
<b><i>Mike Harris</i></b></div>
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