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On 05/05/2011 09:35, Peter Miller wrote:
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Hi all,<br>
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I thought this UK list of orchards was interesting. It would
be nice if they were to release it as open data. Not sure if
they traced it from some restricted source though.<br>
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Just what I was thinking as well.<br>
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Would someone (TimSC?) like to contact them. Given that it was
from aerial survey and given that we have access to Bing
aerial then all we need from these people is a geocodet and
ideally also a name and their reference code for the orchard.
We can create the boundary from that information. A
geocode/name/reference is unlikely to contain any restrictive
IPR.<br>
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Regards,<br>
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Peter<br>
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I also notice the Kent Heritage Tree Project has launch
events:<br>
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Ashford 14th May (I might attend)<br>
Canterbury 14th June<br>
Tonbridge 10th July<br>
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I'm a bit surprised that such a dataset does not already exist.<br>
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A similar (? identical) dataset is available on the (still running)
MAGIC website with the data owner being given as Natural England: <a
href="http://magic.defra.gov.uk/datadoc/metadata.asp?datasetname=Traditional%20Orchards%20-%20Provisional%20%28England%29">http://magic.defra.gov.uk/datadoc/metadata.asp?datasetname=Traditional%20Orchards%20-%20Provisional%20%28England%29</a>.
I would presume that this is available for download under Natural
England's non-open license.<br>
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Other organisations (and people) who may have more information on
traditional orchard locations might include some of the following:<br>
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<li>Local Biological Record Centres: I know the Notts one did some
detailed landuse survey work in the late 1970s. </li>
<li>Local Wildlife Trusts: again some have substantial survey
bases.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.coleopterist.org.uk/">Coleopterists</a>
(interested in specific orchard associated beetles). Recent data
is likely to be point samples on a 100 m grid.</li>
<li>Mistletoe enthusiasts, specifically Jonathan Briggs of <a
href="http://www.mistletoe.org.uk/home/index2.htm">http://www.mistletoe.org.uk/</a>
who co-ordinated a national mistletoe survey in the 1990s.</li>
<li>Moth-ers and bug folk may also have specific orchard related
interests (I know Joe Botting & Tristan Bantock have been
pursuing the Mistletoe Bug in Severn Valley orchards).</li>
</ul>
Of course nearly every one of these organisations will have used OS
mapping during data entry: but in many cases they may have someone
who can give a sensible overview of at the vice-county level.<br>
<br>
Jerry<br>
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