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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:purple'>I’ve seen excerpts of that data in reports presented to the various Joint Transport Board meetings, so yes they have it.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:purple'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:purple'>Gregory<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:purple'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> Steve Doerr [mailto:doerr.stephen@gmail.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> 23 May 2011 14:57<br><b>To:</b> talk-gb@openstreetmap.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Talk-GB] Kent Open Data, KCC<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I wonder if they would have data relating to on-street-parking restrictions?<br><br>Steve<br><br><br>On 23/05/2011 14:53, Gregory Williams wrote: <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:purple'>Not strictly an OSM thing, but I’d also like to see traffic count data released by KCC too.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:purple'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:purple'>Gregory</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:purple'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid windowtext 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;border-color:-moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color
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-moz-use-text-color'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Gregory Williams [<a href="mailto:gregory.williams@purplegeodesoftware.co.uk">mailto:gregory.williams@purplegeodesoftware.co.uk</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> 23 May 2011 10:56<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:talk-gb@openstreetmap.org">talk-gb@openstreetmap.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Talk-GB] Kent Open Data, KCC</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:purple'>Based upon previous discussions with KCC with my cycle campaigning hat on the cycle parking data that KCC hold is far from exhaustive. Also it’s of the form “outside shop xyz, Some Road, Some Place”. So, apart from giving us clues of places to go out and look for cycle parking we haven’t mapped yet, it’s not terribly useful. Luckily, as far as things go, I think I’ve mapped pretty much all of the cycle parking in East Kent and quite a bit elsewhere in the county, as is shown on the cycle parking heat map I maintain:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:purple'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:purple'><a href="http://www.spokeseastkent.org.uk/maps/cycle-parking-heat-map/?zoom=10&lat=51.14048&lon=0.63703&layers=BT">http://www.spokeseastkent.org.uk/maps/cycle-parking-heat-map/?zoom=10&lat=51.14048&lon=0.63703&layers=BT</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:purple'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:purple'>I would be very interested in whether KCC are able to release data about maximum speed limits and traffic calming measures in a form that OSM is able to use. My personal preference would be to use this as something to compare against, such that we can assess where our own data isn’t complete, rather than as something that would be imported.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:purple'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:purple'>Gregory</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:purple'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid windowtext 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;border-color:-moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color
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-moz-use-text-color'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Tom Chance [<a href="mailto:tom@acrewoods.net">mailto:tom@acrewoods.net</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> 22 May 2011 11:28<br><b>To:</b> TimSC<br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:talk-gb@openstreetmap.org">talk-gb@openstreetmap.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Talk-GB] Kent Open Data, KCC</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Tim,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>You might like to ask them to provide you with a list of geodata they hold and that they can release (under the PSMA) without any restrictions. I got such a list off Southwark Council and it gave me a few ideas of data that would be useful including trees and cycle parking stands.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Tom<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 22 May 2011 11:11, TimSC <<a href="mailto:mapping@sheerman-chase.org.uk">mapping@sheerman-chase.org.uk</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><br>Hi all,<br><br>I met people from Kent's OpenKent, which is a county council open data initiative [1][2]. They explained their work and I told them about openstreetmap and its community. They said Kent is not as well developed in open data as some councils but they have a long term commitment to improvement. They have some data sets available but they seem to be mainly concerned with expenses, census data and school expenditure so far. They said they are seeking ideas of what data to publish because they need to prioritize their effort in getting the data for which there is a public demand. If you have ideas, I suggest you get in touch. I expect other councils have already done stuff that's interesting and it might be worth making them aware. They also plan to showcase interesting data visualisations based on their data or any Kent related data. It might be good to get publicity for small projects. OpenKent is also seeking ideas and feedback for a (web based?) data visualisation tool they are planning to help the (non-technical) public use the data.<br><br>I tried to think of data that would be useful to mappers. Obviously the rights of way data would be amazing. The council also holds the parish boundaries data. Some government data sets use parish and electoral boundaries as their areas, so that would be useful to do visualisations. Also the Kent Heritage Tree Project [3] might like the parish boundaries, as apparently many old trees are on or near these boundaries. Having lists of public institutions, possibly with addresses, would be great to validate the OSM database. We can quickly find any schools, public services that we missed. I suspect we will avoid doing imports of data which is not really GIS but we might add data to OSM to make visualisations and mash ups easier (machine tags and data to link to their database rows).<br><br>Again, they said they would appreciate any ideas. I talked to Noel Hatch and Matthew Kerr. Get in touch with them. :)<br><br>Regards,<br><br>TimSC<br><br>[1] <a href="http://www.kent.gov.uk/your_council/open_data.aspx" target="_blank">http://www.kent.gov.uk/your_council/open_data.aspx</a><br>[2] <a href="http://openkent.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">http://openkent.blogspot.com/</a><br>[3] <a href="http://kentheritagetrees.btcv.org.uk/" target="_blank">http://kentheritagetrees.btcv.org.uk/</a><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Talk-GB mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb" target="_blank">http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br clear=all><br>-- <br><a href="http://tom.acrewoods.net">http://tom.acrewoods.net</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/tom_chance">http://twitter.com/tom_chance</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Talk-GB mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org">Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb">http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb</a><o:p></o:p></pre><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>