oh, and the other suggestion - it would be handy if I could hide all existing OSM data which doesn't have highway=* - nearly added the DFT to fences about half a dozen times already!<br><br>Kev<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On 17 June 2012 15:05, Kev js1982 <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:osm@kevswindells.eu" target="_blank">osm@kevswindells.eu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Comments below.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="im">On 17 June 2012 12:44, Martin - CycleStreets <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:list-osm-talk-gb@cyclestreets.net" target="_blank">list-osm-talk-gb@cyclestreets.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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As previously announced [1], we've been working with Andy Allan and the DfT's contractors to open up the cycling data that the DfT have collected (via manual surveys on bikes) over recent years.<br>
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This data for each area is now available, converted, and ready for easy merging in with a new Potlatch2 tool Andy has written. The DfT is very keen to see the data more widely used, by OSM.<br>
<br></blockquote></div><div><br>Neat - a productive way to improve the cyclemap on a wet weekend at home (especially in the local area where much is memorised)!<br> <br></div><div class="im"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/England_Cycling_Data_project" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/<u></u>wiki/England_Cycling_Data_<u></u>project</a><br>
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It has these attributes, and the CycleStreets router [2] now supports them:<br>
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- Surface quality (surface=)<br>
- Local Cycle Network signage (lcn=)<br>
- Lots of missing paths not yet in OSM<br>
- Cycle lane/path widths (width/est_width=)<br>
- Barriers of various kinds (barrier=)<br>
- Traffic calming (traffic_calming=)<br>
- Lighting (lit=)<br>
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The LCN tags, surface tags, and missing paths, will particularly help the routing quality, as Shaun/Gregory who see user feedback will attest!<br>
<br></blockquote></div><div>Now are LCN's which are also NCN's <i><b>Supposed</b></i> to be tagged? - round here most of the NCN stuff is just inside a relation, where as most of the LCN's are on the way's themselves (The Big Track and NTU City to Basford being the only LCN relations I know of) - I have tended to avoid adding LCN to a way which is also an NCN as it looks ugly on Open Cycle Map (although I guess this is "tagging for the renderer") - should I be adding LCN to ways which are part of NCN Route's 6 or 15 too?<br>
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The wiki URL above has a link to each area, and there's a screencast on Andy's merging tool:<br>
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_sMxpWptCQ" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?<u></u>v=A_sMxpWptCQ</a><br>
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I've so far merged in almost half the Cambridge data in under half a day. We'd love to see a local 'cheerleader' for each area. Could you sign up on the Wiki for that?<br>
<br></blockquote></div><div><br>Would be really handy if there were some tile render overlays (or KMLs/GPXs) showing where is still to be merged - so I can easy pick them up when I'm out and about - the stuff I'm looking at now (Nottingham) is mainly to the south of the city boundaries as that is the area I know best.<br>
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Further work we're doing in support of this project is:<br></blockquote><div> </div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
- Any usability improvements in response to feedback on the tool.<br>
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<br></blockquote><div>Speaking of which - when changing the highway from footway or bridleway to cycleway (where it makes OTG sense) it would be neat if you could add "designation=public_xxxway" without having to go into a separate Merkaartor or Potlatch session - ditto editing tags like "lit" and "surface" which you know the DfT has wrong (e.g. a number of off road routes have gained gravel surfaces in the last couple of years round here thanks to the flood defence work).<br>
<br>Kev :o)<br></div></div><br>
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