<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Craig Wallace <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:craigw84@fastmail.fm" target="_blank">craigw84@fastmail.fm</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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I think most of the postal_code tags on postboxes are just based on the ref. eg if the ref on the box is "SE25 29", it is assumed the postbox is in the SE25 postcode, so it is tagged as postal_code=SE25.<br>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">Craig</font></span></blockquote><div><br>Yes, that's what I think's happened. People are recording the ref (e.g. SE25 29) but are also tagged additionally as e.g. "postal_code=SE25".<br>
<br>On 11/09/2012 10:47, Matt Williams wrote:<br><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"></font></span>> I would be surprised if post boxes being labelled with postal codes were affecting which suburb a certain street is associated with in<br>
> Nominatim.<br><br>Sorry, I was unclear. I don't think this is what's happening; rather, Nominatim is getting "Thornton Heath" (incorrectly) from somewhere, and also, separately, "SE25" (incorrectly) from somewhere else. They're different instances of the same process.<br>
<br>RE your point about postcodes simply being lists of addresses: you're quite right, of course. People tend to place great importance on living "within" a certain postcode, and thus we tend to think of them as defining areas, but they don't really. I'm happy not to pursue this. But this implies that "postal_code=SE25" on a postbox is incorrect -- would you agree that this is the case, and would you support the removal of such tags?<br>
<br>@Steve Doerr: Good suggestions -- I have access to both political ward boundaries and (indirectly) to postcode "boundaries". However, neither quite does the job for me. It's all interesting data though, of course -- and it does provide examples of what different people/organisations think a certain placename refers to.<br>
<br>@Tom Chance: Interesting. In Southwark, wards are tagged as "boundary=administrative" rather than "boundary=political" -- presumably this is why Nominatim picks them up? More generally, I'm glad a long-time contributor/developer like yourself has given this some thought and struggled. You ask "could you decide where Croydon ends and Thornton Heath begins?" -- well, I could give it a good try... but then what about other, smaller, suburbs/neighbourhoods like Waddon, Selhurst, Addiscombe -- are they "part" of Croydon/Thornton Heath or adjacent to it? (PS Yes, I'd seen the Dalston page before, and love it :) ) Would you support mappers just giving it a go, based on a mixture of postcodes/addresses/wards and local knowledge?<br>
<br>Thanks all, some great responses; always a pleasure.<br><br>David.<br><br><br><br> </div></div>