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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 24/03/2013 12:46, Nick Whitelegg
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font-style: normal;"><span>1. Firstly I don't think I have
ever responded in a "rant" style fashion on the OSM mailing
lists before, but could you please qualify your insulting
first comment? Are you simply a troll, are are you simply so
pathetic and small-minded not to realise that a) Freemap is
a hobbyist project and is thus inevitably subject to
limitations in server power and b) any time I spend on it is
my own spare time, I am unable to work on it 24/7? If you
think it could be improved I suggest you check out the
source code at <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/nickw1/Freemap">https://github.com/nickw1/Freemap</a> and
contribute, rather than pathetically insulting and
denigrating a lot of hard work? I do You are the first
person I have ever launched a "rant" at in eight years of
contributing to OSM - well done ;-) Come back when you have
some positive suggestions as to how I can improve Freemap
without needing to invest more money in it, or when you have
some source code to contribute, otherwise....<br>
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font-style: normal;"><span>2. I always thought lakes were
simply represented as natural=water. Anything special about
these two which suggests they shouldn't? True, they have
islands in them but so does Derwentwater.</span></div>
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Nick<br>
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I didn't realise you were the creator of FM, but that wouldn't
change my opinion of your work. Was it you who informed me that, for
some reason it intentionally doesn't display Bristol &
surrounds? How is a map that leaves out chunks of data meant to be
taken seriously? How long has FM been going? 3/4 years? in my
experience of (trying) to use it I would say it's actually got more
unusable over that time. I've always thought the "why don't you help
then" counter argument as weak. You put it out there, you have to
take the criticisms. <br>
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It has however, revised my opinion of you:<br>
It's disappointing you don't understand the internet meaning of a
troll. In point two I was clearly giving you help, which, from your
reply, you appear not to have taken.<br>
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I replied to you thinking you were a user of FM & wanted to
point out that it was not a stable platform to test the integrity of
OSM. However as the creator of FM you must be aware of it's
limitations, so to use it as a basis to see if something is missing
in OSM is foolish, & to then assume it's the OSM data that's
incorrect, is IMO, arrogant.<br>
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"I haven't done a lot of work with multipolygons so I'll let someone
with more experience sort it out."<br>
Brilliant. As that's the case, doesn't it stand to reason you
should: <br>
a) Learn about the subject?<br>
B) Check your own software first?<br>
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Dave F,<br>
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