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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 29/07/2014 23:03, Dave F. wrote:<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">... Is the data valid? Is it an
accurate import? Would he have flagged it up if the user had
added them manually one at a time? If the answers are
Yes/Yes/No, then is there a genuine problem?<br>
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I suspect the answers are currently "FSVO valid" (inasmuch it's what
the council's contractors think they have), "out of date as soon as
the button was pressed", and "no" - but more importantly it misses a
couple of basic issues:<br>
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One is that, independently of any "import rules", it's surely just
basic communication and politeness, if you're uploading 1776 pages
of data to a shared database that refers to a remote town in another
country, to actually talk to people locally first. I can think
immediately of a couple of other things that would come out of that
discussion. One is "are there any areas where streetlights have
already been mapped" (answer yes, the gaslights in the Park
certainly are). We'd want to make sure that any import didn't
duplicate existing data. The second would be to consider what other
data could be usefully captured at the same time - such as who owns
or operates the lights and how much is it costing the locals. It's
a PFI scheme, so some sort of independent oversight, or interfacing
with people looking to provide independent oversight, would surely
make sense.<br>
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The second is that this is open data. There's no immediate reason
just to dump it into OSM just _because_ it's open data (especially
if there are no plans for maintenance of it once it's in there - the
source website says "Frequency of update - Continually"). It's not
going to stop being available (in its "continually updated" form)
from opendatanottingham.org.uk - why is it beneficial to have an
out-of-date copy in OSM too? The answer to that part might be
"because OSM already stores some streetlights", but of course there
needs to be a plan to keep the data up to date, and to understand
what other data people making maps and using OSM data in Nottingham
find important, and this just hasn't been done.<br>
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Cheers,<br>
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Andy<br>
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