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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>They all have a service access road from the local road network so they are probably addressed from these.  So, for instance, the address of Welcome Break Corley Services on the M6 is <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>M6 Motorway, Jct 3/4<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Highfield Lane<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Coventry<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Warwickshire<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>CV7 8NR<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>With Highfield Lane being the local bit.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>However there may be different addresses for each side in many cases where there are separate delivery points (especially where there is no access across the motorway between services)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Andy<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Colin Smale [mailto:colin.smale@xs4all.nl] <br><b>Sent:</b> 19 November 2014 08:33<br><b>To:</b> Andy Robinson<br><b>Cc:</b> talk-gb@openstreetmap.org<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Talk-GB] Allegedly named motorways<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>I wonder how motorway services get their post delivered. If they have a letter box, must they have a postcode and therefore a street address? I know in NL motorways sometimes have official names for this purpose, to fulfill referential integrity requirements. Typically it is something obvious like "M1 Northbound" but it is in the official street name register.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Colin<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>On 2014-11-19 08:50, Andy Robinson wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #1010FF 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>When I put the M6Toll in I named it originally Midlands Expressway as that's the name it had right through till the DfT/Secretary of State decided it should be branded M6Toll.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Plenty of similar examples, such as the Preston Bypass which formed an early part of the M6.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Where these names are no longer used on the ground then a former_name tag would be appropriate.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Cheers</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Andy</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a name="_MailEndCompose"></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Colin Smale [<a href="mailto:colin.smale@xs4all.nl">mailto:colin.smale@xs4all.nl</a>] <br><strong><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Sent:</span></strong> 19 November 2014 07:21<br><strong><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>To:</span></strong> <a href="mailto:talk-gb@openstreetmap.org">talk-gb@openstreetmap.org</a><br><strong><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Subject:</span></strong> Re: [Talk-GB] Allegedly named motorways</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Most of the "names" in the South East seem to have been added by two (prolific) specific mappers. Has anyone asked them about their source and motivation? It would sound fair to consult them and hear them out.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Having said that, one of the top rules in my mkgmap[1] style is "highway=motorway {delete name;}"...<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Colin<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>[1] mkgmap produces Garmin satnav maps from OSM, in case anyone is wondering<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>On 2014-11-19 02:12, Andrew Black wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #1010FF 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>There is some evidence of these names being used when the roads were built eg<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>  <a href="http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C1459443">http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C1459443</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>   South Wales Motorway (M4): Chiswick to Langley Special Road; contract for Boston Manor Bridge<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>But I don't think they are useful now.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>On 18 Nov 2014 23:49, "Steve Doerr" <<a href="mailto:doerr.stephen@gmail.com">doerr.stephen@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>On 18/11/2014 23:06, SomeoneElse wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>There's a similar issue a bit further out, the "Slough-Maidenhead By-Pass":<br><br><a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/81517663">http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/81517663</a><br><a href="http://ris.dev.openstreetmap.org/oslmusicalchairs/map?osl_id=18177">http://ris.dev.openstreetmap.org/oslmusicalchairs/map?osl_id=18177</a><br><br>Again that sounds like a description; I've never seen that sign on the M4.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><br>Slough By-Pass is used on OS maps from 1964 to 1975: <a href="https://www.old-maps.co.uk/#/Map/498008/178760">https://www.old-maps.co.uk/#/Map/498008/178760</a><br><br>-- <br>Steve<br><br>---<br>This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.<br><a href="http://www.avast.com">http://www.avast.com</a><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<b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