<div dir="ltr">On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 3:15 AM, Lester Caine <<a href="mailto:lester@lsces.co.uk">lester@lsces.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br>><br>> <a href="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=dump">https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=dump</a><br>> Has a lot lower usage than disposal, but *I* don't like the use of<br>> 'sanitary' ... that is more of a problem than the dump/disposal question!<br><br>The tagging numbers are skewed because I tediously edited every odd variant I could find, mostly outside of Europe.  Those included:<br><br><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px">  name=RV Dump (with other tags)<br>  name=RV Dump Station (with no other tags)<br>  amenity=dump_station<br>  amenity=dump-station<br>  amenity=dumpstation<br>  amenity=dump<br>  amenity=RV Dump<br>  amenity=fuel;dump station;convenience<br>  highway=service + service=dumpstation<br>  shop=fuel;dump station;convenience<br>  shop=fuel;services=dump station;mini-mart;propane<br>  leisure=caravan_site + note=Motorhome dump station<br>  recycling=dump-station<br>  recycling=waste_basket + note=RV Dump Station<br>  recycling=waste_basket + waste=excrement.<br>  amenity=waste_disposal + waste=excrement (which variously meant pump-out, dog_bin, and dump station).<br>  tourism=caravan_site + note=Dumping place<br>  tourism=information + description=RV dump<br>  man_made=wastewater_plant + tag=Motorhome dumping station<br>  amenity=dump (mostly refers to garbage dumps, but a few were RV holding tank emptying spots).<br><br></blockquote>The term "toilets:disposal" was something I coined a few years back for walk-up toilets.:<div><a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Sanitary_Dump_Station">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Sanitary_Dump_Station</a><br></div><div><div><a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tag:amenity%3Dtoilets">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tag:amenity%3Dtoilets</a></div><div><br><div>Some 15 odd uses of the term <b>elsan_point</b> are present: and none outside of the UK.</div><div><br></div>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>Apparently some people care a lot what the name of the tag is.<br>I am not among those people.<br>I care that the feature has rational tagging, as to attract enough interested from the osm-carto maintainers to actually render it:<br></div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/1466">https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/1466</a><br><br>This feature is glaringly missing from campground and canal maps rendered with OSM data.<br><br><br>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>Monolithic tagging matching the desire of richardwest would be fine with me:<br><br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><div><b>amenity=elsan_point</b></div><div><b>amenity=pump-out</b></div><div><b>amenity=rv_dump_station</b></div><div><b><br></b></div><div><b>waterway=elsan_point</b></div><div><b>waterway=pump-out</b></div><div><br></div></blockquote><div>Plus the same for "toilets" "drinking_water", and "fuel" (in particular waterway=fuel).</div></div><div><br></div><div>In that scheme, <b>waterway=elsan_point</b> + <b>amenity=elsan_point</b> is a sensible combination.</div><div>Access tags are need to cover the case of facilities available only to overnight guests, since that case is so common.</div></div>