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As OSM is willing to add an address/postcode to the location, I'm
still struggling to understand the reluctance to add an fhrs:id. The
FSA did issue the FHRS database under an open license didn't they?<br>
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General Point:<br>
As I said before adding FHRS:ID is an ends in itself. It will allow
sites such as 'scores on the doors' to pin point businesses
accurately, rather than relying on the inaccurate co-ordinates in
the fhrs database. <br>
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DaveF<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 23/11/2016 10:03, Jez Nicholson
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<div dir="ltr">Here is an example that is more like the startup
business that Warin mentions
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<div>Chillie Sauce</div>
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<div>112 Barnett Road</div>
<div>Brighton</div>
<div>BN1 7GH </div>
<div>Business type: Other catering premises</div>
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<div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://ratings.food.gov.uk/business/en-GB/904285/">http://ratings.food.gov.uk/business/en-GB/904285/</a><br>
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<div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://goo.gl/maps/SMDjwS1efVL2">https://goo.gl/maps/SMDjwS1efVL2</a><br>
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<div>Regards,</div>
<div> Jez</div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Wed, 23 Nov 2016 at 09:57 Warin <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:61sundowner@gmail.com">61sundowner@gmail.com</a>>
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<div class="m_8804300666347154390moz-cite-prefix gmail_msg">In
Australia business have to have a legal physical address
with a plaque on the entry with their name. <br
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Start up businesses start out using their home address for
costs .. plaque usually goes on the back door ... the
local council has the area designated for residential use
and may discourage business there so they are on iffy
ground hence the back door plaque. <br class="gmail_msg">
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If things go well then the may get a rent on another
location for the 'active' part of the business ... but
retain the home address as the registered part just incase
they find the rent too much or need to move to another
location. That can go on for some time. Hence the register
may contain a 'residential' address for a business that is
actually located else where. I think that maybe what is
going on here. Cost associated with changing the address
of the 'business' dissuade frequent changes - particularly
on startups. <br class="gmail_msg">
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A 'mobile' business .. such as a mobile caterer or a
mobile mechanic may not be something that needs to present
on the OSM map? I'd think someone looking for a mobile
service would want to contact them by phone .. and be best
served by using a phone search. <br class="gmail_msg">
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On 23-Nov-16 08:34 PM, Jez Nicholson wrote:<br
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">Here is an example:
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<div class="gmail_msg">The wonderfully named "Here
Today, Scone Tomorrow" <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://ratings.food.gov.uk/business/en-GB/892292/"
class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">http://ratings.food.gov.uk/business/en-GB/892292/</a> at 35
Sandgate Road, Brighton, BN1 6JP</div>
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<div class="gmail_msg">Business type: mobile caterer</div>
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<div class="gmail_msg"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://goo.gl/maps/dKVXCkPHRTo"
class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">https://goo.gl/maps/dKVXCkPHRTo</a><br
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<div class="gmail_msg">Perhaps they prepare the food at
their home address? or this is their official business
address?</div>
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<div class="gmail_msg">Regards,</div>
<div class="gmail_msg"> Jez</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 at
23:56 Steve Doerr <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
solid;padding-left:1ex">There's a cupcake business
locally which I suspect is a home business<br
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(as the streets in that area are only residential
AFAIK). I haven't<br class="gmail_msg">
actually been there to check it out.<br
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On 22/11/2016 15:54, Dave F wrote:<br
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> I think they're misusing 'private' where they
mean 'personal'<br class="gmail_msg">
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> I've only come across instances of mobile
retailers. Does anyone have<br class="gmail_msg">
> an example of a home business on the FHRS
website?<br class="gmail_msg">
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> If there's only a partial address/postcode how
are OSM contributors<br class="gmail_msg">
> adding them?<br class="gmail_msg">
> Are the co-ordinates provided?<br
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> DaveF.<br class="gmail_msg">
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> On 22/11/2016 13:36, David Woolley wrote:<br
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>> On 22/11/16 12:58, Dave F wrote:<br
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>>> On 21/11/2016 20:23, SK53 wrote:<br
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>>>> A bit late, but according to the FHRS
manual businesses run from<br class="gmail_msg">
>>>> private addresses should be obscured
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>>> Do you have a link?<br class="gmail_msg">
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>> <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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