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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 18-Jan-17 01:23 AM, SK53 wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I do use these from time to time. My usual use
cases are:<br>
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<li>Small named estates of social housing. These are common
throughout Greater London and the name is usually shown on
boards around the perimeter of each estate. Even for ones
without such boards there is often good evidence for the
name (for instance Municpal Dreams' blog on social housing
often uses them). Conceivably these could also be tagged
place=neighbourhood, but I think that may be misleading as
they will usually be described as XXX Estate, YYY Suburb.</li>
<li>Student Villages. Gated sets of apartment blocks marketed
to students only. Although a fairly recent innovation in the
UK, they often represent a significant, and historically
interesting development. These I also tag
residential=student_village. There are at least 5 within a
mile of here.</li>
<li>Very well defined, named residential areas too small to be
a suburb. A pretty unusual occurrence because unlike the two
cases above boundaries are often subjective. In many cases
these will be discrete housing developments (private or
social) which retain an identity. Often the name will be a
local_name, such as Sterling Homes Estate, or the Wimpy
Estate. A good example would be the 'Bomber Estate' in <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/24992892">Maidenhead</a>.
Again I tend to avoid neighbourhood because what defines
these places is often just commonality of building types and
time of the development.<br>
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<li>Retail Parks & Shopping Centres. <br>
</li>
<li>Industrial Estates & Business Parks.</li>
<li>Farm names on landuse=farmyard. I much prefer this to
place=farm. I also often exclude the similarly named
original farm house as these are increasingly not part of
the farm itself. Even if the owner of the farm lives in the
house it is unusual for them to farm themselves.<br>
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I am just adding a landuse=farm with a name. And with
produce=nut;fruit nut=macadamia fruit=avocado. In this case I have a
good boundary and I have a fair amount of information about the
place. <br>
Generally I add a node place=farm as I am not certain where the
boundary lies .. the next farm looks much like this one and I don't
know which field is which farms. <br>
Generally here the main farm residence carries the same name, and is
used by the farm manager as their residence, I add a polygon as the
building outline with building=farm, name=*. <br>
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<p>Other uses include:</p>
<ul>
<li>Area with both landuse and a place tag. Most often
villages, but some suburbs of Milton Keynes have been mapped
that way. MK is unusual in that the grid and area names are
well-defined.</li>
<li>Field names (a few examples to the W of MK). <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/232551091">One of
these</a> applies to a former field which is now
residential. Wrong in my view. (I really like the idea of
capturing current or former field names in OSM, but I dont
think this is the right way to do it).<br>
</li>
<li>Individual residential buildings. E.g., <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/297281678">a hall
of residence</a> in London. Sometimes unavoidable.</li>
</ul>
<p>So to take the examples to hand:</p>
<ul>
<li>The two Hurlingham elements may represent real local
distinctions.</li>
<li>Retail areas. Many of these names will be in use although
probably in a) local planning documents; b) commercial
estate agents and c) retail professionals. Names used by
locals may different and harder to establish as accepted
usage. In these cases it may be that the name is better
placed in an alternative name tag, showing that the name is
in use but only within specific communities or use cases.
Perhaps someone from Geolytix could provide input on this
subject as they have the relevant expertise. Alternatively
diligent searching in the local press and planning documents
may establish that the usage is current.<br>
</li>
</ul>
<p>In short: in many cases names on landuse are a very
convenient way of ensuring a name used for a location is
available with OSM without having to precisely define it with
other tags. In some cases the boundaries are very well defined
and the area is also defined with other tags such as place=*.
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<p>Jerry<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 17 January 2017 at 13:33, Andrew
Hain <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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A recent changeset in southwest London<br>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/43807789"
target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.<wbr>org/changeset/43807789</a>]
added names to landuse=residential and landuse=commercial
polygons. The mapper has not responded to the changeset
comment that I left some weeks ago. The names themselves
read more like descriptions to me as a local and they were
added to the existing polygons, which are somewhat
arbitrary (you could micromap with a polygon for each
block omitting all roads). These names appear on OSM-carto
in italics.<br>
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What is a general view on when it makes sense to add a
name to a landuse polygon?<br>
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--<br>
Andrew
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