<div dir="ltr">Hi Brian,<div><br></div><div>Great to see this going forward! Some technicalities:</div><div><br></div><div>> Process overview</div><div><br></div><div>This is not very clear to me. I think this section either needs more detail, or less (with the detail moved to the individual steps). Also, what do you mean with opening a csv in JOSM?</div><div><br></div><div>> <span style="background-color:rgb(249,249,249);color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.3px">Each chunk will create a separate changeset in OSM</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(249,249,249);color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.3px"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(249,249,249);color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.3px">This is not correct, all chunks will be uploaded within one changeset. See </span><font color="#000000" face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:13.3px"><a href="https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Help/Action/Upload" target="_blank">https://josm.<wbr>openstreetmap.de/wiki/Help/<wbr>Action/Upload</a> for how uploading in chunks in JOSM work.</span></font></div><div><font color="#000000" face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:13.3px"><br></span></font></div><div><font color="#000000" face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:13.3px">On the process detail: </span></font><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.3px">what will happen with current bus stops in OSM that do not have Naptan tags? Perhaps it would be best to add the NaptanCode (or AtcoCode) manually for these stops first? Can't be too many of them.</span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.3px"><br></span></div><div><font color="#000000" face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:13.3px;background-color:rgb(249,249,249)">"</span></font><span style="background-color:rgb(249,249,249);color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.3px">Use a proximity script to determine presence of duplicates. How to handle duplicates?" I don't think we need a proximity script or anything like that, we can just </span><span style="background-color:rgb(249,249,249);color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.3px">do matching on NaptanCode or AtcoCode. So: for all bus stops, if there is a bus stop with a matching NaptanCode already in OSM, update that bus stop; if not, create a new bus stop.</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(249,249,249);color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.3px"><br></span></div><div><font color="#000000" face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:13.3px">The Naptan database contains abbreviations like</span></font><span style="font-size:13.3px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif"> Rd, Ln, St. Will we leave those, or are we going to expand them into Road, Lane, Street etc, as is usually done in OSM? The bus stops in West Midlands have the abbreviations written out as well.</span></div><div><font color="#000000" face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:13.3px"><div><br></div><div>In general, I think it would be good to have some more information in the process detail before going ahead - but I'm sure this will sort itself out over the next weeks.</div><div><br></div><div>Good luck with the import, it's a great step forward!</div><div><br></div></span></font></div><div>-- Matthijs</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 3 February 2017 at 18:52, Brian Prangle <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bprangle@gmail.com" target="_blank">bprangle@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div>Hi everyone<br><br></div>We have an opportunity to work with the regional transport authority TfWM to update this data which is 8 years old and partially edited by OSM users. They have assigned 2 developers to work on this and I'm spending a half day each week working with them.<br><br></div>We've agreed and discussed this in our mappa mercia group and also contacted a prolific local public transport OSM editor who's not part of our group.<br><br></div>In line with the automated edits policy there's a <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_Edit_West_Midlands_NAPTAN_data" target="_blank">wikipage</a> with full details<br><br></div>Comments welcome as this exercise might be useful elswhere as the state of NAPTAN data will be in a similar state<br><br></div>regards<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br><br></font></span></div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">Brian<br></font></span></div>
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