<html><head></head><body><div>On Wed, 2017-03-08 at 11:41 +0000, SK53 wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div>Inadvisable is probably too dependent on the individual and their particular situation.<br></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div>Absolutely, doing this could make many PROW inaccessible.</div><div><br></div><div>Phil (trigpoint)</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><br></div>As ever it is better to try adding something more objective to the data which allows these routing situations to be better handled. The current tags which allow this are sidewalk & verge. I think a sensible solution for your generic case would be to disallow pedestrian routing along A-roads which have sidewalk=none (perhaps when maxspeed > 30 mph). Verges will not be practicable for many pedestrians (Mums with pushchairs, toddlers, older people etc) so I think can be ignored.<br><br></div>This would still allow routing where no-one has surveyed or tagged sidewalk provision, and is therefore less likely to break places where there are pavements or paths. It also allows those cases where walking along the road is inadvisable to be mapped on a case-by-case basis.<br><br></div>Other refinements might include considering whether a road is urban or rural (Richard Fairhurst does this on <a href="http://cycle.travel">cycle.travel</a>): OS Open Data provides a decent data set of this & the one I generate from OSM is very similar.<br><br></div>On a broader community level: mapping presence of absence of pavements or other paths alongside main roads in the countryside (and when absent features of the verge) is probably something we should aim to do alongside completing speed limits for trunk roads. Much can be done from Mapillary images.<br><br></div>Jerry<br><div><div><div><div><br><br></div></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 8 March 2017 at 11:27, Stuart Reynolds <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:stuart@travelinesoutheast.org.uk" target="_blank">stuart@travelinesoutheast.org.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite">
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What’s the thinking about tagging foot=no along busy dual carriageways? Specifically I would like to remove a walk from a stretch of the A2 near Barham in Kent where there are bus stops, but no footways along the verge (and indeed very little in the way of
verge at some points). It is technically legal to walk along the A2 from the junction to the south, but it is most certainly not advisable and you would be taking your life into your hands if you did so.
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<div>BTW, access to the northbound bus stop is via a footpath through the woods. Technically the southbound one is accessed via a footpath across a break in the crash barriers - but we don’t have that on OSM, and I’m not about to add it in.</div>
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<div>Regards,</div>
<div>Stuart Reynolds</div>
<div>for traveline south east & anglia</div>
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