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On 25/03/2018 21:49, Miguel Sevilla-Callejo wrote:<br>
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<div>Sorry to insist but you will undermine, especially, Welsh
names, for a generic rendering that uses "name" tags. Think
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Can you give a specific example of that? Are you saying that "it's
important to pretend that Welsh names are displayed even where they
aren't used very often" by sticking them on the end of the more
commonly used name? The other way around (using Welsh in "name"
because it is the most used name) presumably wouldn't "undermine ...
Welsh names". It could be that I'm completely misunderstanding what
you're saying here but I really don't follow the argument at all.<br>
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Of course, for me, it's a must to fill "name:cy" and "name:en"
too.<br>
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That's great news - it'll allow maps like
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://openstreetmap.cymru/">https://openstreetmap.cymru/</a> (and mine!) to render appropriate names
in appropriate areas.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 25 March 2018 at 20:30, Curon Davies
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<li>The fundamental problem is that there is
no "name" which is correct. In the medium
term, as long as the name:cy and name:en are
correct then the value of "name" should
become less significant. Then it can be up
to the user to decide if they want to
display English, Welsh or both (and if both
which language taking priority).</li>
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</span>The problem currently, is that display choice
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I don't think that that's actually true - I can think of at least 3
choices right now:<br>
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<li>OSM "Standard map" (and a number of others), which just use
the "name" tag:</li>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/51.88362/-5.26565">https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/51.88362/-5.26565</a><br>
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<li>Openstreetmap.cymru, which uses "name:cy":</li>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://openstreetmap.cymru?h=51.88397494833407&ll=-5.264972448348999&ch=17">https://openstreetmap.cymru?h=51.88397494833407&ll=-5.264972448348999&ch=17</a><br>
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<li>Mine, that show one of "name:cy", "name:en", "name:ga" or
"name" depending on location:</li>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://map.atownsend.org.uk/maps/map/map.html#zoom=18&lat=51.883531&lon=-5.264898">http://map.atownsend.org.uk/maps/map/map.html#zoom=18&lat=51.883531&lon=-5.264898</a><br>
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and of course anyone making their own maps (Garmin etc.) can do
whatever they want.<br>
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Best Regards,<br>
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Andy<br>
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PS: Apologies to Curon if his message wasn't meant for the list -
I'm guessing that it was but that he's actually not subscribed yet
and his reply went both to that and Miguel.<br>
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