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<p>Are these additional services legally obliged, or are they offered as a result of a commercial agreement?</p>
<p>Perhaps designation=uk_post_office may be a useful addition to indicate that the legally-obliged services are available at this location. Some services are only available at what used to be called "Crown Post Offices", so designation=uk_crown_post_office could be used here.</p>
<p>The other stuff, like currency exchange, is almost certainly a commercial agreement, with no obligation on a particular post office to offer this service. In this case I would add currency_exchange=yes for example, so one can see where it is, and is not, available.</p>
<p>This would separate the legally required functions (including buying a stamp etc) from the "options".</p>
<p>Colin</p>
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<p>On 2018-05-03 12:14, Philip Barnes wrote:</p>
<blockquote type="cite" style="padding: 0 0.4em; border-left: #1010ff 2px solid; margin: 0"><!-- html ignored --><!-- head ignored --><!-- meta ignored --> I would avoid using amenity=post_office for anything other than a proper post office.<br /> <br /> The term post office is much more than a place to send parcels or letters.<br /> <br /> In the UK a post office offers<br /> Banking services<br /> I can tax my car<br /> I can apply for a passport<br /> I can collect my pension<br /> Exchange currency <br /> Probably lots of other things that I've not thought of. <br /> <br /> Whilst post depot is useful for collecting things that an individual has ordered, sending stuff by courier is a business service. DHL will not be interested in sending my Christmas cards and certainly not for the price Royal mail charges. <br /> <br /> Phil (trigpoint) <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /><br />
<div class="gmail_quote">On 3 May 2018 10:45:57 BST, Michael Collinson <mike@ayeltd.biz> wrote:
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<p>At the risk of being pedantic, but would a "network" tag, similar to bus routes, not be more appropriate?</p>
<p>Here in Sweden, the post office system is now Post Nord, network=Post Nord, but post offices are frequently inside and operated by supermarkets, e.g. operator=ICA. These outlets often handle DHL and other services that might also be considered as postal networks, network=Post Nord;DHL</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2018-05-03 11:15, Brian Prangle wrote:</div>
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<div>Hi Robert<br /> </div>
If an operator tag is added to post_office tags then your comparison tool would be OK<br /> </div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 3 May 2018 at 10:08, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) <span><<a href="mailto:robert.whittaker+osm@gmail.com">robert.whittaker+osm@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br />
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0 0 0 .8ex; border-left: 1px #ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;"><span>On 2 May 2018 at 19:08, David Woolley <<a href="mailto:forums@david-woolley.me.uk">forums@david-woolley.me.uk</a>> wrote:<br /> > On 02/05/18 18:52, ael wrote:<br /> >><br /> >> I am confused:-) How should a Royal mail local delivery office be<br /> >> tagged? It seems that it is not amenity=post_office. I notice that<br /> >> I have used post_depot once some time ago, but that doesn't seem to be<br /> >> in the wiki (or in the presets for josm). Yet I am sure that I got it<br /> >> from somewhere. Not that it seems very natural.<br /> ><br /> > I'm fairly sure this came up a couple of months ago and the answer was<br /> > amenity=post_depot; operator=Royal Mail. It's not, in principle, different<br /> > from Hermes or TNT.<br /> <br /> </span>That's certainly what I'd use. I think there's a good case for tagging<br /> customer-facing shop-like outlets of courier firms as<br /> amenity=post_office since they're places from which you can send<br /> stuff. But for the large warehouse-style sorting/distribution centres<br /> I think something else is needed. amenity=post_depot seems a good<br /> choice to me. It has over 400 uses worldwide, of which over 300 are in<br /> the UK.<br /> <br /> The legitimate use of amenity=post_office for non-Post Office Ltd<br /> branches creates a slight issue for my comparison tool. I've got some<br /> heuristics to account for some sets of objects based on name,<br /> operator, and brand tagging. See:<br /> <a href="http://robert.mathmos.net/osm/postoffice/osm-unmatched.html#non-pol" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://robert.mathmos.net/osm/<wbr />postoffice/osm-unmatched.html#<wbr />non-pol</a><br /> <span class="HOEnZb"><span style="color: #888888;"><br /> Robert.<br /> <br /> -- <br /> Robert Whittaker<br /> </span></span>
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