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Disagree. We all add data which abides by certain rules &
criteria. We vet it ourselves as we're adding it. If a contributor
fails to do that, they should be expected to justify the reasons.
This hasn't occurred. That they still exist as historical documents
is not a viable argument.<br>
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As Dave W. pointed out, it's the thin end of the wedge. <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 26/08/2018 19:45, Adam Snape wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">I don't think it's for those who have mapped
something in OSM to demonstrate majority support for its
retention. I think it is for those seeking to have others'
contributions removed to demonstrate a clear consensus in
favour of deletion.
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<div dir="auto">Kind regards,</div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Sun, 26 Aug 2018, 16:38 Andrew Black, <<a
href="mailto:andrewdblack@googlemail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">andrewdblack@googlemail.com</a>>
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<div>Before we can decide whether to delete or document it
we need to decide whether it is wanted.</div>
<div>Might a Loomio vote be a way forwards.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Sun, 26 Aug 2018 at 15:42, Colin Smale
<<a href="mailto:colin.smale@xs4all.nl" target="_blank"
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<div>I wanted to talk about the process, not the outcome.
It is obvious there is not an overwhelming consensus one
way or the other, and as usual the debate just fizzles
out with no conclusion. If we do nothing, the data stays
in the database because nobody has the balls to delete
it, but it can't be documented for fear of legitimising
it. <br>
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Is this the best we can do?<br>
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CEST, Andrew Black <<a
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<div>I agree with Dave F " It's still historic
data, irrelevant to OSM. They are neither
"current or real". That they will "never change"
is irrelevant. They add no quality to the
database.They should be removed."<br>
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<div dir="ltr">On Sun, 26 Aug 2018 at 12:58, Colin
Smale <<a href="mailto:colin.smale@xs4all.nl"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
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<p>I agree, but where do we actually go from
here? We have some options...</p>
<p>1) remove them all</p>
<p>2) leave them in the database and quietly
ignore them</p>
<p>3) leave them in the database and document
them, even though they are controversial, to
say the least</p>
<p>Option 2 is least desirable IMHO, as we
prefer things that are in OSM to be
documented in some way, e.g. in the wiki</p>
<p>Given the "live and let live" philosophy
that OSM otherwise espouses, maybe we can go
for option 3?</p>
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<p>Or we get some kind of consensus that they
are to be removed, but then I think it
should be the responsibility of the DWG to
make that determination, communicate the
decision, and do the reverts.</p>
<p>On 2018-08-26 13:27, Dave F wrote:</p>
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solid;margin:0"> No, it's hasn't been
acquiesced. It's still historic data,
irrelevant to OSM. They are neither "current
or real". That they will "never change" is
irrelevant. They add no quality to the
database.They should be removed.<br>
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<p>It has gone all quiet here, and in the
mean time smb001 has been making steady
progress across England. I take it that
means acquiescence to these historic
county boundaries being in OSM.</p>
<p>I guess we should get smb001 to write
up the tagging in the wiki.</p>
<p>Or is there a discussion going on
elsewhere that I am not aware of?</p>
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