<html><head></head><body>Thank you for the discussion so far. I've been thinking about a solution for tagging localities that would work for both mappers who want to tag locality types and those who don't. Current proposals (addr:town|village and addr:locality|sublocality) are two distinct and incompatible tagging schemes so reaching a consensus may be impossible. <br><br>How about tagging localities as addr:locality|sublocality _and_ addr:locality|sublocality:type=city|town|suburb|village|hamlet|campus, so they can be added separately and at different times? <br><br>Best regards,<br>Andrzej <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 28 January 2019 04:40:26 GMT+08:00, Andrzej <ndrw6@redhazel.co.uk> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
Hi,<br><br>When working on post codes in East Anglia I realised the current address tagging scheme is insufficient for even fairly basic scenarios. I have already discussed the issues with some of the most experienced mappers and like to bring these issues to your attention. Robert has summarised his ideas in <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Rjw62/UK_Address_Mapping">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Rjw62/UK_Address_Mapping</a><br><br>The bottom line is, I would like to be tag commonly used addresses without losing information and without resorting to addr:full. <br><br>Issues:<br>1. Post towns (most pressing one because there is a lot of confusion around it). The UK is fairly unique in that not every town is a post town. This makes it impossible to tag e.g. Station Road, Histon, Cambridge CB24 9LF. <br>Wiki recommends addr:city to be used for tagging post towns (Cambridge) but then how do we tag Histon? <br>- Robert recommends sticking to the current meaning of addr:city and using addr:town and addr:village for town and village names, which, although not in wiki, are already being used in the UK. I like this solution because it is very explicit in what each addr: key means and it doesn't redefine addr:city. <br>- SK53 prefers using addr:city for everything (towns, even villages) and either not tagging post towns (they can be seen as a an internal detail of a closed Royal Mail database) or using a new tag for it, like addr:post_town. It is a simple solution, results in Histon being called Histon and not Cambridge (without introducing new tags for town and village names) and is commonly used. It is also a bit confusing (what exactly is a city?) and I think we we should at least support tagging post towns. <br><br>Key questions:<br>a) addr:city for post towns or towns and villages? <br>b) how to rag remaining information (respectively, towns and villages or post towns,) <br><br>2. Tagging addresses within campuses, business parks etc. There is addr:place but it is supposed to be used instead of addr:street. Again, Robert has a fairly decent proposal for that using addr:place or addr:locality and addr:parentstreet. Please comment. <br><br>2a. should buildings in campuses be tagged with addr:buildingnumber/name or addr:unit? I would prefer buildingname/number (as they are often subdivided) but these seem to be associated with addr:street. <br><br>3. Similar to (2) but for buildings. Tagging buildings that have e.g. a single name but multiple house numbers? <br><br>Best regards, <br>ndrw6<br></blockquote></div></body></html>