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<p>Hi</p>
<p>Looking at the demo I can't think of a reason why OSM would not
want this data - I believe we do want this data.</p>
<p>Questions I have - <br>
</p>
<ul>
<li>Are the tags suitable for a global database? Can and should
they be reused elsewhere in UK? or globally? Is there a need for
specific prefixed TfL tags?<br>
</li>
<li>Are there clashes with other cycling data in London? What is
a resolution strategy? <br>
</li>
<li>Will import and integration be performed by automatic
processing? Usual OSM import rules? Clash detection and sanity
checking?</li>
</ul>
<p>Regards</p>
<p>Tony - TonyS999<br>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/06/2019 23:13, Martin Lucas-Smith
- CycleStreets wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:alpine.DEB.2.20.1906102307510.13610@pling.qwghlm.org">
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<br>
The demonstrator map showing this data from TfL now has an
extensive set of filters for each feature type:
<br>
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://tflcid.cyclestreets.net/">https://tflcid.cyclestreets.net/</a>
<br>
<br>
E.g. for cycle lane/track, you can now filter for segregated,
shared, prority at sideroads, full/part time, mandatory, stepped
track, etc.
<br>
<br>
These filters match the schema definition at:
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://tflcid.cyclestreets.net/TfL_CID_Schema.pdf">https://tflcid.cyclestreets.net/TfL_CID_Schema.pdf</a>
<br>
<br>
There are also a lot more images loaded now.
<br>
<br>
My general impression is that the data does seem very accurate. I
would welcome more eyes on this, and thoughts generally on the use
of this data in OSM. Hopefully the filtering will make this easier
to find various kinds of infrastructure.
<br>
<br>
I am about to circulate a suggested mapping of the TfL data to OSM
equivalents, where equivalent tags exist, for comments.
<br>
<br>
<br>
NB The new filtering controls have a couple of URL persistency
bugs - I'll mop these up shortly. So please be aware of this if
sending a link.
<br>
<br>
<br>
Martin, ** CycleStreets - For Cyclists, By
Cyclists
<br>
Developer, CycleStreets ** <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.cyclestreets.net/">https://www.cyclestreets.net/</a>
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<br>
On Fri, 10 May 2019, Martin Lucas-Smith - CycleStreets wrote:
<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
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<br>
Transport for London (TfL) have created a new database of
cycling infrastructure, containing 240,000 assets, covering all
of Greater London.
<br>
<br>
This groundbreaking database contains every cycle infrastructure
asset within Greater London, including assets on and
off-carriageway. The assets surveyed are: cycle parking;
signals; signage; traffic calming measures; restricted points
(e.g. steps); advanced stop lines; crossings; cycle
lanes/tracks; and restricted routes (e.g. pedestrian only
routes).
<br>
<br>
TfL is keen to make this available to the OpenStreetMap
community under a compatible open license, to ensure maximum use
of the CID. TfL is also potentially willing to consider tool
development to help facilitate sensitive merging in of this
data.
<br>
<br>
There is a new Wiki page, giving full details, at:
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/TfL_Cycling_Infrastructure_Database">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/TfL_Cycling_Infrastructure_Database</a>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Demonstrator map:
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<br>
<br>
A demonstrator map, for the purposes only of evaluation by the
OSM community at this stage, has been created by CycleStreets.
<br>
<br>
This demonstrator map contains only one of the 25 areas that
have been surveyed.
<br>
<br>
We are specifically seeking comments on data quality and
usefulness of this data from the OSM community. Initial analysis
by CycleStreets is that the data is of excellent quality, and
very suitable for conflation into OSM, to increase both
comprehensiveness and metadata quality.
<br>
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://tflcid.cyclestreets.net/">https://tflcid.cyclestreets.net/</a>
<br>
(Use the controls on the right to change feature type.)
<br>
<br>
Usage notes: The controls on the right of the map allow the
different feature types to be selected. The OSM layer (available
at zoom level 19+) also provides a live feed from the OSM API,
to enable quick comparisons. The two photos of each asset are in
the process of being supplied; those already available and
cleared in GDPR terms are included in the popup.
<br>
<br>
It is stressed that at this point, no permission is given for
re-use of the data in any way, but TfL strongly intends to make
this available in future. All 25 areas would be covered in the
final data release, not merely the one shown currently in the
demonstrator map.
<br>
<br>
<br>
Feedback is very strongly encouraged, as soon as possible. What
are people's thoughts?
<br>
<br>
<br>
Martin, ** CycleStreets - For Cyclists, By
Cyclists
<br>
Developer, CycleStreets ** <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.cyclestreets.net/">https://www.cyclestreets.net/</a>
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