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<p>Hi,</p>
<p>Had a quick look at <a href="https://opencanalmap.uk/about/">https://opencanalmap.uk/about/</a>
particularly the Canal & River Trust license link at the
bottom, it clearly states <br>
</p>
<p><span style="left: 120.04px; top: 780.257px; font-size: 18.4px;
font-family: sans-serif; transform: scaleX(0.8922);">3.1 </span><span
style="left: 180.042px; top: 780.257px; font-size: 18.4px;
font-family: sans-serif; transform: scaleX(0.913079);">This
licence does not permit the use of: .........</span><span
style="left: 180.033px; top: 873.89px; font-size: 18.4px;
font-family: sans-serif; transform: scaleX(0.932796);"> </span><span
style="left: 120.04px; top: 899.69px; font-size: 18.4px;
font-family: sans-serif; transform: scaleX(0.912445);">3.1.4</span><span
style="left: 180.033px; top: 899.69px; font-size: 18.4px;
font-family: sans-serif; transform: scaleX(0.935036);">Data for
or in connection with or for the direct or indirect benefit of
any Commercial </span><span style="left: 180.033px; top:
925.49px; font-size: 18.4px; font-family: sans-serif; transform:
scaleX(0.893967);">Purpose; and</span></p>
<p><span style="left: 180.033px; top: 925.49px; font-size: 18.4px;
font-family: sans-serif; transform: scaleX(0.893967);">so I
think that the data does not meet OSM license requirements
particularly Commercial purposes.</span></p>
<p><span style="left: 180.033px; top: 925.49px; font-size: 18.4px;
font-family: sans-serif; transform: scaleX(0.893967);">However
canoeing data does seem to be something that OSM should work
with.</span></p>
<p><span style="left: 180.033px; top: 925.49px; font-size: 18.4px;
font-family: sans-serif; transform: scaleX(0.893967);">TonyS999<br>
</span></p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 31/08/2019 22:33, BD wrote:<br>
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<div>For some time I did wonder why this information is not
available on OSM (or at least not complete)<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Have you seen this project:<br>
</div>
<div><a href="https://opencanalmap.uk/about/"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://opencanalmap.uk/about/</a><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>One thing that puzzles me is fact that this open data is
merged with google maps. Wouldn't be easier to have it on OSM?<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Cheers,<br>
</div>
<div>dzidek23<br>
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<div>Today's Topics:</div>
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<div> 1. Wales Coast Path almost finished (Richard
Fairhurst)</div>
<div> 2. Re: Canoeing infrastructure/river features (Jez
Nicholson)</div>
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<div>Message: 1</div>
<div>Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2019 16:05:01 +0100</div>
<div>From: Richard Fairhurst <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:richard@systemeD.net"><richard@systemeD.net></a></div>
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<div>Subject: [Talk-GB] Wales Coast Path almost finished</div>
<div>Message-ID:
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:9e1d2555-65a1-9e19-3501-22a25f0f3230@systemeD.net"><9e1d2555-65a1-9e19-3501-22a25f0f3230@systemeD.net></a></div>
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<div>I was in holiday in North Wales last week and mapped
the biggest </div>
<div>remaining gap, east from Aberdaron:</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div> <a href="https://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/#?map=13"
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target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/#?map=13</a>!52.8079!-4.6498</div>
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</div>
<div>That leaves three smaller gaps around the central
Cardigan Bay </div>
<div>coastline, between Barmouth and Borth:</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div> <a href="https://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/#?map=15"
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target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/#?map=15</a>!52.6483!-4.0907</div>
<div> <a href="https://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/#?map=14"
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target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/#?map=14</a>!52.4981!-4.0189</div>
<div> <a href="https://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/#?map=15"
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target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/#?map=15</a>!52.5799!-3.9411</div>
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<div>plus one short one in South Wales near Gowerton:</div>
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<div> <a href="https://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/#?map=15"
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target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/#?map=15</a>!51.6472!-4.0787</div>
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</div>
<div>Fixing these will mean not only that the WCP is
complete in OSM, but </div>
<div>also, as far as I can tell, that we have full coverage
of National </div>
<div>Trails in England & Wales. So if anyone's going on
holiday to West </div>
<div>Wales, or the Gower, please do map the missing bits and
we'll be complete.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>cheers</div>
<div>Richard</div>
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<div>Message: 2</div>
<div>Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2019 09:57:35 +0100</div>
<div>From: Jez Nicholson <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jez.nicholson@gmail.com"><jez.nicholson@gmail.com></a></div>
<div>To: Talk-GB <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:talk-gb@openstreetmap.org"><talk-gb@openstreetmap.org></a></div>
<div>Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Canoeing infrastructure/river
features</div>
<div>Message-ID:</div>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:CALBgsih3KX6=TE9F9zF7s+qK3QuwOW31pWwnRJXnaSHY2tkSWA@mail.gmail.com"><CALBgsih3KX6=TE9F9zF7s+qK3QuwOW31pWwnRJXnaSHY2tkSWA@mail.gmail.com></a></div>
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<div>By 'collect some relevant info' I mean 'document your
findings from asking</div>
<div>questions on Talk lists and poking round the wiki'.
Before constructing any</div>
<div>grand new project pages, I would add a section to a
relevant UK page. This</div>
<div>_could_ spin off into a new page later, or it might
provoke the response</div>
<div>of, "but this is documented here on .... page", or
people might join in.</div>
<div>Either way, everyone wins.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>A search on <a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?search=canoe"
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target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?search=canoe</a>
and</div>
<div><a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?search=kayak"
nh-safe-redirect=""
data-saferedirecturl="https://zasobygwp.pl/redirect?sig=bd72999626392d5d330c327cee10a9091afde783c53d8c76f7866e8399f07d1c&url=aHR0cHM6Ly93aWtpLm9wZW5zdHJlZXRtYXAub3JnL3cvaW5kZXgucGhwP3NlYXJjaD1rYXlhaw==&platform=desktop&brand=o2"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?search=kayak</a>
throws up some</div>
<div>pages. The <a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:route%3Dcanoe"
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data-saferedirecturl="https://zasobygwp.pl/redirect?sig=975200b129b8895a8d9917b432d5a6a5a6d9e12cd87bffa9dafcfbc3d1159735&url=aHR0cHM6Ly93aWtpLm9wZW5zdHJlZXRtYXAub3JnL3dpa2kvVGFnOnJvdXRlJTNEY2Fub2U=&platform=desktop&brand=o2"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:route%3Dcanoe</a>
caught my</div>
<div>eye as I didn't know that canoe routes were
signed/plotted.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>My best experience with the wiki comes from writing</div>
<div><a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Renewable_energy_in_the_United_Kingdom"
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target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Renewable_energy_in_the_United_Kingdom</a></div>
<div>By writing up the situation in the UK and
working-in-the-open on a personal</div>
<div>project to locate wind farms, I have found other people
who were also</div>
<div>interested, and it has led (partially) to the solar
quarterly project.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The OSMWiki is organised in places, chaotic in other
places, and</div>
<div>frustrating in many.....but it is *ours*. I appeal to
all UK Mappers to</div>
<div>make it a good place to be.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 9:48 AM Jez Nicholson
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jez.nicholson@gmail.com"><jez.nicholson@gmail.com></a></div>
<div>wrote:</div>
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<div>Interesting. There must be some waterways fans around
here somewhere. I</div>
<div>can see some pages like</div>
<div><a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Whitewater_Maps"
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target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Whitewater_Maps</a>
which</div>
<div>focus on one aspect of canoeing, and some countries
appear to have marked</div>
<div>routes.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>As a UK Mapper you could add to</div>
<div><a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_waterways"
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target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_waterways</a>
and collect</div>
<div>some info relevant to UK canoeists.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>- Jez</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 5:00 AM Edward Bainton
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bainton.ete@gmail.com"><bainton.ete@gmail.com></a></div>
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<div>Hello all</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I've started to map some features useful (I hope)
to canoeists such as</div>
<div>myself.</div>
<div>Eg, <a
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/73814496"
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target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/73814496</a>
(Irthlingborough</div>
<div>Lock)</div>
<div>Eg, <a
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/73815104"
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target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/73815104</a>
(bottom right)</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>However, there seems to be quite a lack of objects
on the wiki that are</div>
<div>suitable. (Full disclosure: I'm an occasional,
rather inexpert mapper.)</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Is this the place to discuss?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Edward</div>
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