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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">A liquidator will try to maximalise
money returned. <br>
This could/should mean sale of fixtures and fitting of leased
premisses and then terminating leases. <br>
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<div dir="ltr">Legal situation of leases, fixtures and fittings as
far as I'm aware:
<div>- Lease continues and rent continues to be payable.</div>
<div>- Liquidator can disclaim the lease, bringing all
obligations to an end OR</div>
<div>- Once in arrears/other breach of covenant (such as keeping
open for trade), landlord can deem the lease forfeit: property
returns to them</div>
<div>- Once owed 7 days' rent (which could be many months hence
if paid quarterly in advance), landlord has right to impound
and liquidate fixtures and fittings to offset their losses,
after some procedural safeguards. </div>
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<div>But as SK53 says, eyeballs must be best.</div>
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<div>Not a lawyer, just a geek who read this up as a charity
trustee. Corrections gladly received.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 25 Sep 2019 at 09:07,
SK53 <<a href="mailto:sk53.osm@gmail.com"
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<div>I suspect the fixtures & fittings will be cleared
out fairly pronto, although not the fascia signage. As the
firm has been liquidated I presume all leases on retail
property are now in default, and consequently null and
void. Landlords will be anxious to get new tenants as
quickly as possible, and are likely to clear the shops for
that reason. (A certain amount of speculation on my part
as I don't know what the actual legal situation with
ownership of fixtures & fittings is in these
circumstances). Ether way we can learn more by some
on-the-ground surveys.</div>
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<div>Phones 4U went into administration in September 2014,
and their shops were cleared out of fittings pretty
rapidly, although they remained as visible 'ghosts' on
high streets for a long time afterwards.</div>
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<div>A nice refinement of the shop=X =>
shop=vacant;disused:shop=yes would be to only go from
name=Y to old_name=Y when the signage disappears. Frederic
Rodrigo talked about pedestrian navigation by landmark at
SotM, and prominent closed shops (and also pubs) are often
useful landmarks. However, I think this is still a luxury
for the average mapper trying to keep somewhere
up-to-date.</div>
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<div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 at
14:54, Chris Hill <<a href="mailto:osm@raggedred.net"
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<p>Thomas Cook shops are not vacant. They may not be
open to the public today, but they may well be
reopened by a new owner in the future and that may
even be under the Thomas Cook brand if the
administrator sells some or all of them to another
company. In the mean time they are still branded and
still a landmark of sorts.</p>
<p>If a shop is emptied or reused by another firm then
change that one otherwise I think we should wait for a
while to see what happens. <br>
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<pre class="gmail-m_-4244171701056768996gmail-m_1896423850016162774gmail-m_-4467175754010038982moz-signature" cols="72">cheers
Chris Hill (chillly)</pre>
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<div dir="auto">I'm a fan of shop=vacant,
old_name=Thomas Cook myself
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<div dir="auto">You could argue for not:name=Thomas
Cook maybe</div>
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<div>I changed the three shops in N.I to
disused;shop=travel-agent since I wasn't sure
what the best practice was in this case. Not
all of them had the wiki links etc. Any advice
on a better way?<br>
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