<div dir="ltr">Re: my comment about shop=vacant. I may have been convinced to use disused:shop=travel_agent + name=Thomas Cook. Not sure whether a vacant shop with no ghost signage would still be a shop=vacant or a disused:shop=yes.<div><br></div><div>I'm not keen on bulk automated closing everything called Thomas Cook because the world is more complicated than it first seems to be. I favour visual confirmation.</div><div><br></div><div>Is there a case for automated addition of OSM Notes or Fixmes to stores/locations to ask people to check?</div><div><br></div><div>- Jez</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 6:54 PM Andrew Hain <<a href="mailto:andrewhainosm@hotmail.co.uk">andrewhainosm@hotmail.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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We can check for properties where the brand:wikidata tag was left behind by checking the other tags, particularly name= and shop=.</div>
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<b>Sent:</b> 28 September 2019 17:32<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Talk-GB] Subject: Re: Thomas Cook shops</font>
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<div>The specific problem with that suggestion is that you miss lots of Thomas Cook shops (particularly old Co-op Travel & Ilkeston Co-op travel): it hits about 3 within 15 miles of Nottingham whereas there are nearer 11 (for obvious reasons), and one of those
is <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/116307151/history" target="_blank">apparently is not</a> now a travel agent. </div>
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<div>This latter aspect shows that editors other than iD may not surface Wikipedia/wikidata tags & that therefore such data needs to be cross-checked, and bulk edits may inadvertently change other things. In many ways I prefer that we acquire new local mappers
(like OftenResident in Alfreton) who notice that an area is out-of-date & set about getting it up-to-date, rather than doing a partial update and missing other info (like the shop is now a hairdresser). Obviously others think we should keep everything as up-to-date
as the information we have available. I don't think we have ever reached a consensus on this.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">It's unclear to me if there's a consensus on the tagging here. Personally I like the `disused:` prefix.
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<div>I couldn't see if it was mentioned anywhere, but we can also query for all the locations explicitly marked as part of the Thomas Cook brand using the `brand:wikidata` tag: <a href="https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/MFP" target="_blank">https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/MFP</a></div>
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<div>All of the results here can really be automatically re-tagged as disused or vacant since we explicitly know they were locations belonging to Thomas Cook (the beauty of wikidata tagging). You might say some may already have been sold and re-signed, but
that can always be tagged after - we at least know for certain that none of them are Thomas Cook travel agency shops anymore.</div>
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