<div dir="auto"><br><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"helvetica neue",arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">As a local, I think it should be tagged as commercial. There is some event there most weeks. It's a very commercial organisation.</span><div dir="auto"><font color="#222222" face="helvetica neue, arial, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br></span></font><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto"><br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 24 Feb 2020, 09:58 Mark Goodge, <<a href="mailto:mark@good-stuff.co.uk">mark@good-stuff.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Morning all,<br>
<br>
Someone has commented on a change I made to the Three Counties <br>
showground last year when I changed the tagging to landuse=grass rather <br>
than landuse=commercial. Their suggestion is that it really ought to be <br>
landuse=recreation_ground, with a secondary tag of surface=grass.<br>
<br>
<a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/74103491#map=16/52.0834/-2.3235" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/74103491#map=16/52.0834/-2.3235</a><br>
<br>
I've responded to that comment on the changeset, but I thought it would <br>
be worth throwing out here as well.<br>
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I do think that tagging showgrounds as landuse=commercial is generally <br>
incorrect; it doesn't match the description of 'commercial' in the wiki <br>
and doesn't reflect the typical uses of showgrounds both when a show is <br>
on and when one isn't.<br>
<br>
The reason I tagged the Three Counties showground as grass is because, <br>
most of the year, that's precisely what it is - an open area of <br>
grassland. Unless there is an event on (which only happens for a <br>
minority of days in a year) it is just an open space.<br>
<br>
Looking at a few other showgrounds across the country, we don't seem to <br>
have any consistency.<br>
<br>
The East of England Showground is tagged as landuse=recreation_ground:<br>
<br>
<a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/52.5456/-0.3170" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/52.5456/-0.3170</a><br>
<br>
The Suffolk Showground is tagged as a park:<br>
<br>
<a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/52.0330/1.2277" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/52.0330/1.2277</a><br>
<br>
So is the Staffordshire County Showgound:<br>
<br>
<a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/52.8255/-2.0643" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/52.8255/-2.0643</a><br>
<br>
The former Royal Showground at Stoneleigh is tagged as commercial, but <br>
in that case that's probably now correct as it's no longer used as a <br>
showground and is gradually being redeveloped as a business park:<br>
<br>
<a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/52.3435/-1.5220" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/52.3435/-1.5220</a><br>
<br>
The Great Yorkshire Showground isn't tagged as an area at all, just a <br>
network of roads and individual features:<br>
<br>
<a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/53.9830/-1.5065" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/53.9830/-1.5065</a><br>
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Similarly with the Norfolk Showground<br>
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<a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/52.6490/1.1793" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/52.6490/1.1793</a><br>
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And the Bath and West Showground:<br>
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<a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/51.1552/-2.5265" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/51.1552/-2.5265</a><br>
<br>
So, what do people think? Personally, I think that showgrounds ought to <br>
be tagged as an area, because they do, typically, have clear boundaries <br>
and are distinct from their surrounding context. But I'm less sure what <br>
the area should be tagged as. I think commercial is usually wrong, for <br>
the reasons I've already given, but I can see an argument for either <br>
grass, recreation_ground or even park.<br>
<br>
Thoughts, anyone?<br>
<br>
Mark<br>
<br>
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