<div dir="ltr">Dear CJ et al.,<div><br></div><div>I have added the ability to take pictures directly in the app of drinking water fountains and refill cafés which are already in OSM and showing in the European Water Project Web App.</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://europeanwaterproject.org?lang=EN">https://europeanwaterproject.org?lang=EN</a></div><div><br></div><div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Capturing an image from the webrtc camera and adding the users geo coordinates to the exif meta data was a challenge. The user takes the geolocalized picture within the app and it shows up immediately within the app after getting stored on an AWS S3 storage (with the exif meta data). After that, the images are semi-manually copied to Mapillary and linked to OpenStreetMap objects. I am separately in discussions with Wikimedia about seeing if there is streamlined way to add the images on Commons as well. </div></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Here is a video of how the image capture process works:</div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><a href="https://drive.google.com/open?id=1XbYC1xwsjCySv1g9LPHx3zX07SNtCeuI">https://drive.google.com/open?id=1XbYC1xwsjCySv1g9LPHx3zX07SNtCeuI</a><br></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Best regards,</div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Stuart </div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">PS : It's great to see so many refill cafés showing up on the map. We are almost at 300 refill establishments !</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 at 14:01, European Water Project <<a href="mailto:europeanwaterproject@gmail.com">europeanwaterproject@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Dear CJ,<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I agree with your opinion of how open data Refill really is. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">The idea of contacting chains in Q3 or Q4 (or early next year depending on how the current crisis unfolds) makes a lot of sense.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Best regards,</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Stuart </div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Mar 20, 2020, 13:55 Cj Malone <<a href="mailto:CjMalone@mail.com" target="_blank">CjMalone@mail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>"You can download our proprietary app, that uses our proprietary data, on 2 proprietary app stores, on 2 proprietary platforms. The app is open."<br><br>Doesn't make much sense to me, but oh well.<br><br>Seriously though, I added the only local place I know about. But would it be appropriate to contact some of the corporate chains involved, like Costa and Starbucks, see if it is 100% universal across there UK stores and then talk about an bulk import?<br><br>Cj<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 20 March 2020 10:55:39 GMT, European Water Project <<a href="mailto:europeanwaterproject@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">europeanwaterproject@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">Dear All,<div><br></div><div>Just got off a long conversation with Rebecca Burgess, CEO of Refill. </div><div><br></div><div>Unsurprisingly, Refill has no plans to share any of their proprietary data, but their App is open because anybody can use it :)
</div><div><br></div><div>Refill has plans to use more and more OpenStreetMap data to populate their network over time without re-contributing ... Just a shame everyone can't just use the Refill App (sarcasm) !</div><div><br></div><div>Best regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Stuart </div><div><br></div><div>PS: Stay safe !</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 at 23:59, European Water Project <<a href="mailto:europeanwaterproject@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">europeanwaterproject@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Dear Andy, </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">If <a href="http://Refill.org.uk" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">Refill.org.uk</a> were to "license" their data to OSM, under what terms would that be concretely? I don't want to misspeak (not show my total ignorance on the subject) when I talk to Rebecca Burgess, the Refill CEO on Tuesday.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">In the unlikely event that Refill's position changes, with whom can I put her in contact with?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Best regards,</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Stuart </div><div dir="auto"><br><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Mar 14, 2020, 21:10 Andy Mabbett <<a href="mailto:andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 at 11:27, Jake Edmonds via Talk-GB<br>
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I've been pressing them on the point of open licensing, recently:<br>
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