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<p>The update on the FOIA request <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/lists_of_historic_and_parent_upr">https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/lists_of_historic_and_parent_upr</a>
is worth a read!! Makes you wonder at the value of releasing open
data that has limited value to the public?<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 01/08/2020 20:24, Nick wrote:<br>
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<p>As a follow up, Robert Whittaker also submitted an FOI asking
for "... a list of all UPRNs that are classified as 'historic',
and a separate list of all those classified as a 'parent' ....".
the logicto me was that this would help users of Open Data to
then filter these out. The response that this was "<span
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float: none;">exempt from disclosure under section 21 of the
FOIA" - if you are interested follow the link to </span><span
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href="https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/lists_of_historic_and_parent_upr"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/lists_of_historic_and_parent_upr</a><br>
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<p>I was also interested regarding the details of the batch
allocation to each custodian. So apart from the commercial
value, this is unlikely to be published as apparently this might
be misleading due to the randomness of the data and likely to be
out of date quickly. <br>
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<p>So much for the potential for collaboration with the various
authorities.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 06/07/2020 15:10, Nick wrote:<br>
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<p>Hi Jez<br>
<br>
To clarify, what I did was to find a 'suspicious' UPRN (two
pins on one building with different address details). I then
looked up the address on an online system (e.g.
OneScotlandGazetteer or the local authority online Planning
system) to check the details (UPRN and address). That allowed
me to have details, which in this instance I then checked
property sites (e.g. ESPC) to verify the 'likely' error.<br>
<br>
If you want more details of the example, let me know and I can
put a bit more detail together.<br>
<br>
Cheers<br>
<br>
Nick<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 06/07/2020 12:34, Jez Nicholson
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">Sorry, i mean 'findmyaddress'.
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<div dir="auto">Also, from this Twitter thread <a
href="https://twitter.com/jnicho02/status/1279821108783579139?s=20"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://twitter.com/jnicho02/status/1279821108783579139?s=20</a>
I note that some streets have a UPRN. Existing services
filter them out.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 6 Jul 2020, 12:29
Jez Nicholson, <<a
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moz-do-not-send="true">jez.nicholson@gmail.com</a>>
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<div dir="auto">Do you mean that you looked up the UPRN on
findmystreet and it's supposedly in a different location
to the latlon in the file?</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 6 Jul 2020,
12:26 Nick, <<a href="mailto:nick@foresters.org"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true">nick@foresters.org</a>>
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.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">So I
have just started with my crude system and already
found one UPRN <br>
that looks as if it is in the wrong location (wrong
postcode 6BT > 6ST ~ <br>
and wrong county). If I am correct, then this
demonstrates the value of <br>
opening up data to more 'eyes'. Not sure how we could
collate all lists <br>
of anomalies to demonstrate this to government.<br>
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On 06/07/2020 12:09, Nick wrote:<br>
> I went for the crude approach as my computer is
not that powerful, so <br>
> I split the CSV into chunks and imported batches
into QGIS with <br>
> county/postcode boundaries as my interest is
trying to understand how <br>
> the UPRNs have been batched. Not elegant but
means that I now can <br>
> focus on our area and identify those UPRNs that
are most useful to me <br>
> for plotting missing rural properties. I can then
write a script to <br>
> only give me those UPRNs of interest. As I say,
crude but useful to me <br>
> as I can now start to match addresses to UPRN
when I add properties.<br>
><br>
> On 05/07/2020 20:56, Kai Michael Poppe - OSM
wrote:<br>
>> On 05.07.2020 18:45, Kai Michael Poppe - OSM
wrote:<br>
>>> On 05.07.2020 17:51, Andy Mabbett wrote:<br>
>>>> Naive question - can that be added as
a layer in JOSM? If so, how?<br>
>>> I'll have to check whether I can manage
that anyway with the new server<br>
>>> now. Will come back to this.<br>
>> Meh. 3 hours in, every possible lead I had
didn't bring me closer to<br>
>> setting up the UPRN data in the same way.<br>
>><br>
>> Having 6 GiB of GeoPackage or 2 GiB of MySQL
data doesn't make working<br>
>> with the data any easier.<br>
>><br>
>> I will look out for help from the GeoServer
people during the week,<br>
>> watch this space :)<br>
>><br>
>> K<br>
>><br>
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