<div dir="ltr"><div>I must admit to being surprised that we dont have a distinct value: recycling points are much commoner throughout Europe than they are in the UK (probably because more people live in flats). Windsor & Maidenhead withdrew at least some of their points when recycling bins were introduced. In Nottingham single containers are relatively common (usually things like the red BHF ones, rather than council ones), and single containers with multiple ports exist on the University site, as do combined rubbish bins, recycling bins.</div><div><br></div><div>In Spain and Switzerland something like a recycling point with multiple containers will be located within a short distance of most properties (e.g. this <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/7896935059#map=19/46.79881/10.30768" target="_blank">one</a> I added which has at least 4 distinct containers). At least in the past in some Swiss communes, these were also co-located with a communal location for household rubbish (the one above doesn't appear to have that facility now). I presume Poland is similar, but Mateusz can confirm.</div><div><br></div><div>It does appear that an additional tag value would be appropriate.</div><div><br></div><div>Jerry<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, 27 Nov 2020 at 09:42, Jez Nicholson <<a href="mailto:jez.nicholson@gmail.com" target="_blank">jez.nicholson@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="auto">Agreed, "point" sucks as a value, I won't use it....my fundamental reason for it not being a 'centre' was size, but a Recycling Point _could_ be seen as a mini Recycling Centre that only accepts recyclable waste. You can see a perimeter boundary by the concrete area it is set on. I could go with a site relation but you can't physically carry out other activities between the constituent objects (unlike a wind farm).</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div>I will try with 'centre' and including '....Recycling Point' in the name.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, 27 Nov 2020, 08:58 Dan S, <<a href="mailto:danstowell%2Bosm@gmail.com" target="_blank">danstowell+osm@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Op do 26 nov. 2020 om 19:21 schreef Jez Nicholson <<a href="mailto:jez.nicholson@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">jez.nicholson@gmail.com</a>>:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Okay, bear with. I know that this is detailed mapping, but I enquired a while ago on the amenity:recycling talk page and a single recycling container == a single node. A group of containers == a group of nodes.</div><div><br></div>Here is an image of the highly attractive Golf Drive Recycling Point <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Golf_Drive_Recycling_Point.jpg" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Golf_Drive_Recycling_Point.jpg</a> featuring 6 * "amenity"="recycling" + "recycling_type"="container" which accept different items including <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/8168379145" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/8168379145</a> glass, <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/8168379151" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/8168379151</a> cans, cardboard, paper, plastic bottles, and <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/8168379142" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/8168379142</a> a clothes bank.<div><br></div><div>The area they are contained in is called "Golf Drive Recycling Point". There's a sign that says so. I've added a polygon <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/877940580" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/877940580</a> as "amenity"="recycling" + "recycling_type"="point"</div><div><br></div><div>I can only really see containers or centres in <a href="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org.uk/keys/recycling_type#values" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org.uk/keys/recycling_type#values</a> but this place is neither.</div><div><br></div><div>Are you offended by "amenity"="recycling" + "recycling_type"="point"? It seems like the UK term for it.</div></div><br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Honestly, "point" seems dangerously prone to misunderstanding, when used as a value here in OSM. I know we tend to say "recycling point", but that doesn't mean that we say "point". "I'll just go to the point".</div><div><br></div><div>I wish I could suggest a good alternative word, e.g. a word we already use for some other type of feature.</div><div><br></div><div>What is the fundamental reason this is not a recycling_type=centre? Is it the size? (If so, no problem - use "centre" on a suitable polygon.) Is it the fact that it's unstaffed? (Could use self_service=only or supervised=no.) Is it that there's no perimeter boundary?<br></div><div><br></div><div>Best<br></div><div>Dan</div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 4:25 PM Jeremy Harris <<a href="mailto:jgh@wizmail.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">jgh@wizmail.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On 26/11/2020 11:16, Jez Nicholson wrote:<br>
> Am I missing something, or is there no concept of a Recycling Point in OSM?<br>
> Have you seen/used anything else?<br>
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<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:recycling_type" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:recycling_type</a>><br>
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Cheers,<br>
Jeremy<br>
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