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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Jez, I'm confused :)</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix"> Your first email recognised the
difference between a recycling centre (i.e. a council-run 'tip' /
'dump' that you can normally drive into) and a recycling point
(i.e. one with containers, found in supermarket car parks etc.).<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">So I'm really not sure why you would
tag the "Golf Drive Recycling Point" as recycling_type=centre when
it is clearly recycling_type=container? There's really only two
options in the OSM data, and photos on the wiki page also make it
clear which is which:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:recycling_type">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:recycling_type</a> <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Examples in Aberdeen - centre: <a
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href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/116883204">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/116883204</a>
and container: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/464736817">https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/464736817</a><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 27/11/2020 09:40, Jez Nicholson
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<div dir="auto">Agreed, "point" sucks as a value, I won't use
it....my fundamental reason for it not being a 'centre' was
size, but a Recycling Point _could_ be seen as a mini
Recycling Centre that only accepts recyclable waste. You can
see a perimeter boundary by the concrete area it is set on. I
could go with a site relation but you can't physically carry
out other activities between the constituent objects (unlike a
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<div>I will try with 'centre' and including '....Recycling
Point' in the name.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Op do 26 nov. 2020 om
19:21 schreef Jez Nicholson <<a
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<div>Okay, bear with. I know that this is detailed
mapping, but I enquired a while ago on the
amenity:recycling talk page and a single recycling
container == a single node. A group of containers ==
a group of nodes.</div>
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Here is an image of the highly attractive Golf Drive
Recycling Point <a
href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Golf_Drive_Recycling_Point.jpg"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Golf_Drive_Recycling_Point.jpg</a>
featuring 6 * "amenity"="recycling" +
"recycling_type"="container" which accept different
items including <a
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/8168379145"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/8168379145</a>
glass, <a
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/8168379151"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/8168379151</a>
cans, cardboard, paper, plastic bottles, and <a
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/8168379142"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/8168379142</a>
a clothes bank.
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<div>The area they are contained in is called "Golf
Drive Recycling Point". There's a sign that says so.
I've added a polygon <a
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/877940580"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/877940580</a>
as "amenity"="recycling" + "recycling_type"="point"</div>
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<div>I can only really see containers or centres in <a
href="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org.uk/keys/recycling_type#values"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org.uk/keys/recycling_type#values</a>
but this place is neither.</div>
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<div>Are you offended by "amenity"="recycling" +
"recycling_type"="point"? It seems like the UK term
for it.</div>
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<div>Honestly, "point" seems dangerously prone to
misunderstanding, when used as a value here in OSM. I
know we tend to say "recycling point", but that doesn't
mean that we say "point". "I'll just go to the point".</div>
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<div>I wish I could suggest a good alternative word, e.g.
a word we already use for some other type of feature.</div>
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<div>What is the fundamental reason this is not a
recycling_type=centre? Is it the size? (If so, no
problem - use "centre" on a suitable polygon.) Is it the
fact that it's unstaffed? (Could use self_service=only
or supervised=no.) Is it that there's no perimeter
boundary?<br>
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<div>Best<br>
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<div>Dan</div>
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at 4:25 PM Jeremy Harris <<a
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target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">jgh@wizmail.org</a>>
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rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On 26/11/2020
11:16, Jez Nicholson wrote:<br>
> Am I missing something, or is there no concept
of a Recycling Point in OSM?<br>
> Have you seen/used anything else?<br>
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Cheers,<br>
Jeremy<br>
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