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https://tutanota.com<br><br><br>Date: 1 Dec 2020, 11:23<br>From: ipswichmapper@tutanota.com<br>To: scolebourne@joda.org<br>Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] High quality NLS imagery of buildings and
HOUSENUMBERS (!) available in London (and Scotland). Create a tasking
manger to add this?<br><br><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div><br></div><div>My experience is the oposite. It even listed housenumbers such as 12A. Checking google streetview shows they are correct.<br></div><div><br></div><div>It obviously depends, however.p.s. where are the oxted housenumbers? Osm.org doesn't display housenumbers in Oxted.<br></div><div><br></div><div>IpswichMapper</div><div>-- <br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>1 Dec 2020, 09:58 by scolebourne@joda.org:<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div>As a side note to the legal aspect, the house numbers can be horribly<br></div><div>inaccurate. I compared Oxted to a ground survey, and the old map<br></div><div>simply numbered the houses consecutively, which isn't reality on the<br></div><div>ground. One possible explanation is that brand new estates (1940s)<br></div><div>were done this way, as the final house number hadn't yet been chosen.<br></div><div>Anyway, be careful when trusting these maps.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Stephen<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 at 09:33, Ken Kilfedder <spiregrain_osm@ksglp.org.uk> wrote:<br></div><blockquote><div><br></div><div>SO,<br></div><div><br></div><div>It turns out - we cannot use these images until the scanner's copyright expires at the end of next year. Happily, it seems like there will be GB-wide coverage available at that point, not just the London-Southend-Brighton area.<br></div><div><br></div><div>However, I have been happily using these images for a bit less than a year now, so I'm looking for advice on How to redact. I've tagged all the relevant changesets with the name of the TMS, so it should be possible.<br></div><div><br></div><div>1. Is there an overpass syntax that would let me download (to JOSM) - all ways with addr:housenumber added or changed via a changeset with a certain source tag? (and not updated by something else later)<br></div><div>2. Could I then wipe all such addr:housenumbers and re-upload?<br></div><div>3. Could I keep a JOSM session file around to reupload the addr:housenumbers once the scanner's copyright has elapsed?<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>This has come to light thanks to IpswitchMapper's tireless efforts to set up a tasking manager for adding housenumber, and thank to Rob-from-OSMF's communications with NLS.<br></div><div><br></div><div>---<br></div><div>https://hdyc.neis-one.org/?spiregrain<br></div><div>spiregrain_osm@ksglp.org.uk<br></div><div><br></div><div>On Mon, 16 Nov 2020, at 10:55 AM, Ken Kilfedder wrote:<br></div><div>> Hi Mark,<br></div><div>><br></div><div>> If there is absolute confidence in that, can it be added to the wiki page here:<br></div><div>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/National_Library_of_Scotland<br></div><div>><br></div><div>> And can it be added to the default set of old maps in JOSM?<br></div><div>><br></div><div>> If it is available for use, not point in keeping it a secret.<br></div><div>><br></div><div>> ---<br></div><div>> https://hdyc.neis-one.org/?spiregrain<br></div><div>> spiregrain_osm@ksglp.org.uk<br></div><div>><br></div><div>> On Fri, 30 Oct 2020, at 6:47 PM, Mark Goodge wrote:<br></div><div>> ><br></div><div>> ><br></div><div>> > On 30/10/2020 18:37, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-GB wrote:<br></div><div>> > ><br></div><div>> > ><br></div><div>> > ><br></div><div>> > > Oct 30, 2020, 16:28 by talk-gb@openstreetmap.org:<br></div><div>> > ><br></div><div>> > > It has come to my attention that the "Town Plan" map from 1944-1967<br></div><div>> > > in NLS is available freely.<br></div><div>> > ><br></div><div>> > > What are its licensing terms?<br></div><div>> > ><br></div><div>> > > "available freely" does not mean "compatible with OSM license"<br></div><div>> ><br></div><div>> > It's out of copyright, so there aren't any licensing issues in deriving<br></div><div>> > data from it.<br></div><div>> ><br></div><div>> > I would, though, be a little reluctant to use it as a basis for<br></div><div>> > wholesale numbering without any supporting local knowledge or survey.<br></div><div>> > House numbers can, and sometimes do, change, particularly when streets<br></div><div>> > are renamed or rebuilt. So you can't be 100% certain that a house number<br></div><div>> > in the 1950s is the same number it is now, even if the building is still<br></div><div>> > the same.<br></div><div>> ><br></div><div>> > Mark<br></div><div>> ><br></div><div>> > _______________________________________________<br></div><div>> > Talk-GB mailing list<br></div><div>> > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org<br></div><div>> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb<br></div><div>> ><br></div><div>><br></div><div>> _______________________________________________<br></div><div>> Talk-GB mailing list<br></div><div>> Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org<br></div><div>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb<br></div><div>><br></div><div><br></div><div>_______________________________________________<br></div><div>Talk-GB mailing list<br></div><div>Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org<br></div><div>https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>_______________________________________________<br></div><div>Talk-GB mailing list<br></div><div>Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org<br></div><div>https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div></blockquote> </body>
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