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<p>Totally agree that openstreetmap.org isn't supposed to be a
"general public" map destination but without knowing user
journeys, I assume that is where most people land. <br>
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<p>Options could be that openstreetmap.org provide alternative links
based on locality and/or develop robust (N.B. tiles from
opencyclemap.org seems to have security issue) local solutions
that are found by search engines (i.e. good search engine
optimisation)<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 13/12/2020 12:12, Andy Townsend
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 13/12/2020 11:16, Mateusz
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<div>Note that someone who wants to show their map style at OSM
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<div>be included, though they must sponsor hosting<br>
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<div>See <a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Featured_tile_layers/Guidelines_for_new_tile_layers"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Featured_tile_layers/Guidelines_for_new_tile_layers</a><br>
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<div>As far as I know, the main blocker seems to be <br>
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<div>"Capable of meeting traffic demands. The proposed tile
layer server/server farm<br>
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OpenStreetMap website."<br>
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<div>ÖPNVKarte is map style that joined recently.<br>
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<div>Dec 13, 2020, 12:08 by <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:nick@foresters.org" moz-do-not-send="true">nick@foresters.org</a>:<br>
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<p>Seems to me that apart from the tagging, the issue
highlighted here is with how the general public can easily
use OSM? Going to the OSM map, the layers on offer are
Standard, Cycle Map (which does show the driveway connected)
etc. but if a user wants a more specific use this is not
easy to find. To my mind this is where more options from the
worldwide map fail to deliver and is a bigger issue that can
be resolved by understanding the 'customer' journey better?
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<p>The main blocker for a map that shows public footpaths etc.
would actually be the "Global scope and coverage" requirement on
that page, since public footpaths only exist in England and
Wales.</p>
<p>It used to be possible to easily replace tiles from one of the
map styles at osm.org with another one, but since the move to
https-only tiles that's now much harder to do. You can replace
(say) <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://map.atownsend.org.uk/hot/9/253/166.png"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://map.atownsend.org.uk/hot/9/253/166.png</a>
with <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://tile-a.openstreetmap.fr/hot/9/253/166.png"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://tile-a.openstreetmap.fr/hot/9/253/166.png</a>
at the hosts file level, but need to click through a "scary
browser warning" every few days.</p>
<p>More generally openstreetmap.org isn't really designed as a
"general public" map destination, which is fair enough (it can't
do everything). It's easy to make suggestions like "it should
do X as well" - the tricky bit is actually doing it and
maintaining it. I'd definitely prefer a project landing page
that's closer to the German one <a
class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://openstreetmap.de/"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://openstreetmap.de/</a> , but I
don't have the skills, energy, time or enthusiasm to make that
happen. I particularly like the "showroom" there - a link to
lots of different map styles, separate from the main
openstreetmap.de map.</p>
<p>Another example that is surely worth mentioning here is <a
class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://cycle.travel"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://cycle.travel</a> - that's
designed for a particular use case. I suspect that most people
become aware of OSM by seeing the name at the bottom-right of a
completely different site that someone sent them to because it
was useful. Another indication of this is the number of help
questions that we see where people are having problems with "the
openstreetmap app" or "the site gives an error" (and that site
clearly isn't openstreetmap.org).</p>
<p>Best Regards,</p>
<p>Andy<br>
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