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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 14/12/2020 20:57, Richard Fairhurst
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<div dir="auto"><span style="color: var(--textColor);
background-color: var(--backgroundColor);">A barrier=stile
on a long-established UK bridleway is 99.9% a mapping error.
Bridleways are open to horses and bikes, and so stiles are
forbidden - PRoW officers are pretty hot on this. </span></div>
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<p>That may be the case in the comfy Cotswolds but I'm not sure that
necessarily the case everywhere else in the country. :) <br>
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<p>Actual steps on bridleways are common enough that I had to add a
rendering for them at map.atownsend.org.uk (see
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://map.atownsend.org.uk/maps/map/map.html#zoom=19&lat=54.417701&lon=-0.525549">https://map.atownsend.org.uk/maps/map/map.html#zoom=19&lat=54.417701&lon=-0.525549</a>
). I might have recently mentioned
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://map.atownsend.org.uk/maps/map/map.html#zoom=21&lat=54.0087259&lon=-1.0201263">https://map.atownsend.org.uk/maps/map/map.html#zoom=21&lat=54.0087259&lon=-1.0201263</a>
(a bridleway with an electric fence across it) on this list as
well. <br>
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<p>There are plenty of signed bridleways where horse access might be
difficult for other reasons: I set horse_scale=demanding on
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/762748920">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/762748920</a> , but on balance it
should perhaps be a higher value due to the difficulty in
negotiating the descent. A subsequent mapper added bicycle=yes
there - that's entirely correct, but the depth of the mud and the
thickness of the trees would would be a challenge to even the
keenest MTBer.<br>
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<p>With regard to this alleged stile, the previous tagging and
location would suggest to me a barrier=horse_stile (mentioned
earlier in the thread) on the bridleway rather than a
barrier=stile off it, but so much here needs remapping or at the
very least rechecking (the stream differs greatly from the
imagery, at least one of the bridleways looks like a track to me,
no designation tags) that personally I'd just stick it in the
"needs survey" bucket.</p>
<p>Best Regards,</p>
<p>Andy</p>
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